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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-16-2010, 03:45 AM Thread Starter
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Question "banks" wheel

can someone please explain why i should want (or not) a banks wheel if/when i upgrade to a van turbo? i hear they spose to help with surge but wouldnt a turbo with a 1.15 a/r ratio do the same thing??



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Re: "banks" wheel

A Banks wheel will hold more pressure at a fixed flow.

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A Banks wheel will hold more pressure at a fixed flow.
OK. But why? I guess im still struggling to understand the science of turbos!!
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OK. But why? I guess im still struggling to understand the science of turbos!!
The short version of why is, because the blades on the wheel are shaped different. If you want to know why blades shaped like the ones on a Banks wheel will hold more pressure than a wheel that has even blades you are probably going to have to take an Engineering class. And even then you may find the answer is "because the flow machine shows it does".

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I was under the impression a van turbo shouldn't surge and not need the wheel.

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Re: "banks" wheel

Are you having surge issues? My Van turbo didn't have surge.

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I was under the impression a van turbo shouldn't surge and not need the wheel.

thats why i asked the question


i`m currently running a stock turbo,and yes it surges like crazy. got a lead on a van turbo rite now but want 2 know if i should put a wheel in it or not.
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thats why i asked the question


i`m currently running a stock turbo,and yes it surges like crazy. got a lead on a van turbo rite now but want 2 know if i should put a wheel in it or not.
Why not wait and see? If it surges you can buy the ported housing which will fix the issue.

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Re: "banks" wheel

Good point. iv seen remanufactered Van turbos for sale with the banks wheel installed.... however the one im looking at is a stocker.
If i understand correctly the main benefit of the banks wheel is a slightly higher boost capability?
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Re: "banks" wheel

You will see a slight boost psi drop with the banks (ww) and also a drop with the 1.15.

I am running a van turbo with a ww and ATS housing. Overkill with the 2 but I would never go back. Also depends on gearing, tire size and what ur towing.

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