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Are the filters on an AirDog lift pump AirDog-unique or are there other-brand filters that will cross-reference to the ones that come with an AirDog?

I wasn't able to find out yes/no but is there a heater option for AirDogs? I'd like to do the bowl-delete mod eventually but where I live and am likely to live in the forseeable future having a heat option would be nice.
The filters are interchangeable,with other brands , but be careful here, as you need the correct micron rating to protect that common rail, if you have one. A lot of companies rate a filter micron(x) this or micron(y) that, but that doent tell you the true performance of a filter, because we don't know if that micron is nominal or absolute rating. Most companies give you a nominal rating to make tyou feel like the filter is a higher performer than it really is. So they came up with an international Beta Rating for filtration of viscous fluids, and other fluids requiring filtration. YOu have a 100%, 75%, and a 50% RATING. sO A FILTER ACTUALLY HAS 3 MICRON RATINGs ACCORDING TO THE BETA RATING system. So for example if a filterr says that it is 30 micron, it means that is 100% of the time going to catch 30 mircon and larger particles, it can also catch 25 mircon and larger 75% of the time and maybe even 15 micron and larger 50% of the time, this would be it's nominal rating. Or it's lowest amount of filtration performance. wHILE FULL FLOW LUBE FILTERS ARE IN-EFFICIENT ANYWAY WE DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THE MICRON RATING, BUT THE FUEL FILTER HAS TO GET ATTENTION HERE. Most filter companies will post the absolute rating, which is what we want to look at, this is what tells us that that filter is actually going to catch all of those particle all the time. On a common rail you want a first pass filter with a absolute micron rating no smaller than 30 micron and the second pass filter(this is the final pass before th high output pump) you want a absolute filter rating of 2 micron. Now the Fass and the AirDog both do this, but be carfeul if you cross filters to another brand, because sometimes during the cross, it is just a will fit filter, meaning it will fit, but, the micron rating is different. I can tell you from experience that the only aftermarket filters that has the 2 micron absolute are Fleetguard and Donaldson, Donaldson actually builds the filter for everyone, and private labels it to other companies.Sorry to ramble, I had to go to school and learn all this crap so I thought I would at least pass it on and maybe somebody else could learn something.

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Re: Couple questions for AirDog owners

the filters are able to be cross referenced

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FWIW, the AirDog brouchure I have in my hads says that their filters are 'Stratapore Inside' filters. Stratapore is a trademark of Fleetguard, therefore Mr. Holmes, I submit to you that the filters AirDog uses are in fact.....FLEETGUARD!

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FWIW, the AirDog brouchure I have in my hads says that their filters are 'Stratapore Inside' filters. Stratapore is a trademark of Fleetguard, therefore Mr. Holmes, I submit to you that the filters AirDog uses are in fact.....FLEETGUARD!

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Stratapore is built by Donaldson and liscensed to Fleetguard for commercial sale. If you hace a CR use the Fleetguard Brand or Donaldson.
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I wasn't able to find out yes/no but is there a heater option for AirDogs? I'd like to do the bowl-delete mod eventually but where I live and am likely to live in the forseeable future having a heat option would be nice.
How cold are the temps where you are or will be living? It's been down to the teens and single digits around here for the past couple years and I've had no form of fuel heater at all. So far, I have not had any problems that I'm aware of by not having a fuel heater. Of course, teens and single digits may not be anywhere near as cold as what you've got.

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Well, with temps that cold, I can see how a fuel heater might be a good idea. Even treated fuel can gel up when it gets that cold. I'm sure you know that though.

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Re: Couple questions for AirDog owners

i found the X reference for the fleet guard filters, but it's on my laptop @ work and it'll be a thursday before i go back. if no one has posted by then i'll be glad to . I found the info in another Diesel fourm by chance. I made a BM but, i had to pay for access to view everything. luckly the #'s i was looking for were at the begining of the thread.

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I thought I'd drop by before i left for the Dr. and see how the thread was progressing, and until i read your reply, It didn't dawn on me what i wrote.

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I had to go by the office for a few items and while i was there i picked up my laptop and brought it home, cause i'm gonna be home another week or so .

these were the FLEETGUARD FILTER X-REFERENCE #'s

MAIN FILTER @ 7/8" X 14 thread INTERIOR FILTER STAMP 4872

5 MIC. FILTER FF 5613
7 MIC. FILTER FF 5587
10 MIC. FILTER FF 5617

WATER SEPERATOR FILTER

FLEET GUARD FS 19768

I have not verified these #'s to see if they fit. I began to reasearch these filters before i invested into this upgrade ( Airdog) to see if there was a alternate source of filters in the event i ever needed one immediatly.

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