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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-15-2008, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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Turbo surge

I need some help. I am having surge problems and I have been told to do the ats housing. I think I have found one, but I am not sure if its the one that I need or do they differ.
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Re: Turbo surge

An ATS housing should be the same for all years of the stock superduty turbo.......Except the early 99 there might be a different one if you have an early 99
You could just do a compressor wheel upgrade.....Its cheaper (under 100$) and it might solve it, if not it will only help with the ATS

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Re: Turbo surge

early 99's don't surge....that is the one good thing about them.

they have a stock ww and it seems to work better then the ww added to the 99.5, prob something to do with the e99 housing .
I say that because not all of the 99.5 have success with just a ww.

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Re: Turbo surge

The ATS is the only TRUE cure for surge on a stock turbo. Besides, it's a ton easier to put on than the wicked wheel and you don't have to worry about ruining a turbine blade or ending up with an exhaust leak.

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Re: Turbo surge

if you have a 1999.5 or up and you get an ats, you will not be able to make your turbo surge. if your turbo is in good shape it's money well spent, unless you need more boost than 25 to 28 psi.

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unless you need more boost than 25 to 28 psi.
Oh please!! Nobody needs that much boost......

Oh, and do you ride? Just assuming due to your avatar.

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post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-16-2008, 06:14 AM
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Re: Turbo surge

The wicked wheel is a waste of money. Either buy the ATS housing. This will cure ALL surging problems. Or purchase a new BB turbo. Dont waste you time or money on a wicked wheel.

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early 99's don't surge....that is the one good thing about them.

they have a stock ww and it seems to work better then the ww added to the 99.5, prob something to do with the e99 housing .
I say that because not all of the 99.5 have success with just a ww.
The eary 99's and OBS trucks are more resistant to a surge condition due to the compressor wheel design, it has very little to do with housings. The "WW" style compressor wheels move a bit less air than the later wheels do, which is why you don't get surge as easy. Another option, a better one IMO would be to put a bit bigger turbine housing on it to slow the shaft speed so you are not moving so much air at low RPM.
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early 99's don't surge....that is the one good thing about them.
I beg to differ!!
I have heard Moose99ps's early 99 turbo surge like no ones business!!!! that thing is fukin bad!!!! especially with a load!!!

I have also gotten mine to go it a time or 2....usually only when it upshifts at WOT....
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post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-16-2008, 07:08 AM
 
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Re: Turbo surge

EVERY turbo WILL surge. EVERY compressor map has a SURGE line on it. Some turbo's will not surge on a particular application due to engine setup, turbo sizing, etc.

OBS will surge, WW will surge, even an ATS housing is capable of it. A properly spec'd turbo is just designed to run below the surge line in a particular engine tuneup.
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