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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-14-2008, 05:12 AM Thread Starter
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Hybrid users, suggestions needed

I'm debating on whether its worth it or not to run big oil with my beans hybrids with .008 nozzles. I've read that some people think its pointless to run BO with hybrids because the single shots require less oil usage than stock AD's. My question is, how much less oil do single shots use compared to AD's? Does anyone have #'s comparisons from dataloging? As my current stock pump sits, pressures stock no chip are 2900+, 140 setting 500 idle, 2100-2200 WOT. It will throw the P1211 code at about 80 mph going from 50-90. I also have seen quite a few windowed blocks lately, and i dont want that with mine for obvious reasons. I have forged rods, but i'm worried that with my new turbo/injector upgrade i'll be near the limits of the bottom end, and big oil will just be icing on the cake. Current set up will be as follows:

Beans hybrids .008 nozzles
Beans Modded H2E 17/71mm
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I'm thinking around 450-475 rwhp with this setup w/o big oil; current 80 tune with I/E made 293/542.

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I had big oil before I put in my hybrids, so I don't know how they ran before. But I know that my DI Mini Me's were AWESOME with my terminator pumps. The wider powerband you gain with big oil is where you notice the difference.

I've got a friend with a stock pump and hybrids, and his truck flat out rips, with no 1211 code. I think my truck pulled harder through the entire rpm range though.

I'll also say this; I wouldn't trade my dual oil pumps for anything...
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My only concern is that the BO will give me more torque down low than my rods will like, and decide to leave. I figure i'll be around 450ish without big oil so...i dunno

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So don't ask for so much fuel down low...

Or put a larger turbine A/R on it.

Either of which would shift the power up.
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With your exact same setup, Jody told me he tuned a truck to 498.5 rwhp.

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I don't think big oil really gives you much more peak horsepower. Maybe 20hp at its peak, but it makes more power for so much longer. I have a hard time driving anything with out it now.

Especially this loaner F-150
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With your exact same setup, Jody told me he tuned a truck to 498.5 rwhp.

2000 truck, H2E turbo, 0.008" nozzles on hybrids and maybe a fuel system.
Was that with or without BO?

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So don't ask for so much fuel down low...

Or put a larger turbine A/R on it.

Either of which would shift the power up.
Its got the 17cm turbine on it.

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If it makes too much power down low, pull the fuel or go to a 19.
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The 17cm is the stock H2E exhaust housing. IIRC, they have 19cm, 21cm and 23cm if you ever want to swap it out.

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