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38R or H2E?

I'm deciding on what turbo upgrade i want to do. I've heard a lot of good thing on the 38R and the H2E.

I have stage 2 injectors from rosewood diesel (160 or 180cc cant remember off the top of my head). I will upgrading my tranny and hpop before I do the turbo so i have some time to decide which route i want to go.

Basically this is my work truck/fun toy. I use this truck for towing quite a bit. I usually tow around 15k on a gooseneck. So not real heavy, but not exactly light loads.

So my question is this. How is the 38R for towing applications versus the H2E? I'm thinking the H2E will be better as it glows more air. But has anyone pulled a lot with a 38R

I'm pretty sure I'm NOT going to upgrade my injectors to hybrids or stage 3's down the road (but the bug could bight again and I may want more power). I know the 38R will work well for stage 2's but from what i've read that's about as much as they will handle?

Any insight on these turbos will be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: 38R or H2E?

I have not ran an H2E, but I do have a 38R....

The 38R is a great towing turbo as far as I can tell. I have towed some HEAVY loads with the 38R and hybrids and it keeps up well. They are really tough turbos.

Only reason I would say go for the H2E kit is for turbo choices. There are many choices to choose from with that style of turbo.

So 38R if your wanting to save a little money and will not be going with bigger injectors.

H2E kit if you have the coin and there is a chance you will want more power one day.

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Re: 38R or H2E?

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I have not ran an H2E, but I do have a 38R....

The 38R is a great towing turbo as far as I can tell. I have towed some HEAVY loads with the 38R and hybrids and it keeps up well. They are really tough turbos.

Only reason I would say go for the H2E kit is for turbo choices. There are many choices to choose from with that style of turbo.

So 38R if your wanting to save a little money and will not be going with bigger injectors.

H2E kit if you have the coin and there is a chance you will want more power one day.
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I guess the H2E is only 6-700 more than the 38R. So whats another 700 more when your already spending a lot of coin right? Saving that money is the real reason why i want to condiser the 38R.


What HP can the 38R support? Is 400 about it's max?
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Re: 38R or H2E?

Trey just put down 530 on a dyno with one I believe. They are good to about 550 id say.... Maybe more with spray

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Re: 38R or H2E?

I put down 520hp and 926tq last year and 516hp and 1121tq this year with my 38r.

They are GOOD turbos and I tow heavy with mine from time to time with no issues. Its all about how good the tuning is

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Re: 38R or H2E?

geeze 500+ hp with a 38R? That's pretty stout. Sounds like i would have room with the 38R to do some mild hybrids down the road if I wanted to.

What hp will the H2E support?
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hey big stroker your pretty close to me. I'm in Lizton Indana which is 20 miles west of indy. Maybe 2 hours from you.

Would it be possible to meet up so i can check out the truck? I would like to see what 500 hp is like in these rigs. I've been trying to find someone locally who is doing some mods to thier psd's. I have a 97 OBS auto, but close enough to the same thing to give me an idea.
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h2e or qssb


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hey big stroker your pretty close to me. I'm in Lizton Indana which is 20 miles west of indy. Maybe 2 hours from you.

Would it be possible to meet up so i can check out the truck? I would like to see what 500 hp is like in these rigs. I've been trying to find someone locally who is doing some mods to thier psd's. I have a 97 OBS auto, but close enough to the same thing to give me an idea.
Sure do you ever get over near Muncie or Anderson?

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