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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-29-2009, 04:02 AM Thread Starter
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Talking turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

okey here goes i have a 99 f250 crew cab short bed 4x4 auto. these are my
mods so far dual manaflow stainless, pup programer.aem brute force intake,hx
crossover hose, harpooned tank,and a heavy duty rebuilt transmission
now my question is what is the best setup
for towing at my max tow capacity towing my fifth wheel. I tow a 20k so
what turbo intercooler and trans cooler will keep those at the lowest points
possible, without having to spend 5 grand or more. Would like to keep it less
than 4 thousand. What setups have you used and what have you seen for
egt droppage, and trans temps drops and holding point on the trans temps.
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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

6.0 Trans cooler
6.0 IC can be done for $300 and see 100-200EGT drop..
If you really wanna drop $$$ then Banks/Spearco/DI intercoolers all will fit the bill
a Garrett 38R ball bearing turbo will prob be your best bet..

I would say get a coolingmist or snow performance stage 3 water methane injection kit would keep you super cool.

I tow w/ my sig and I saw a a 250 EGT drop w/ 6.0IC and van turbo.. and with the 6.0 TC my trans never gets over 150 degrees

So..
6.0 Trans cooler - $150-250
6.0 TC install kit - $40 (from BTS or build your own)
38R BB Turbo - $1500
6.0 Intercooler - $ 150-250
new IC boots - $50
OR
DI/Banks etc IC - $1200-1500

water meth kit - $500-900

so right around $2-3k you could be pretty set. I would def do the CCV mod to keep crankcase gases outta that shiny new IC

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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

For towing my upgrades would be
Rear air bags.
New helwig front and Rear anti sway bar
New shocks
Powerslot rotors hawk pads.
Exhuast brake .
A chip with appropriate tow tunes will save you a tranny,mpg etc.
Coolant filter
Reg return.
6.0 tranny cooler.
Ats ,di, or spearco ic.
Water injection
Ats housing or ww.
Adrenaline hpop or a bigger oil system.

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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

Are you towing 20k gross w/ a 5th wheel?

I would say put airbags on the rear.. Prob upgrade to some F-350 blocks in the back..

I found that 20k is too much for a F-250.. it just squats it too low.

I tow w/ my 5th wheel constantly 20-24k gross constantly throughout the year and bags are my next upgrade. If you don't wanna drop $1500 for a 38r then I would recommend a van turbo w/ a WW or ATS comp. housing.

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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

i do have a radiator filter from dieselsite and yes i had air bags
on my other truck but some one torched that one in my drive
way when i was away at my parents. Now i have this new truck
to start all over again. lot of money went up in smoke. question
the ats cold intercooler how well does that one work compared
to the 6.0 intercooler is it really worth the extra cash. I have read
that the 6.0 has came apart on people the plastic ends that is.
That would really suck for us towing our setups to be thousands
of miles away from home. The 6.0 trans cooler what is needed
to make that work on my truck.
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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

I have head of the 6.0 IC coming apart on 6.0 trucks.. b/c of the higher boost levels.

I believe the ats gives a 200-250 degree drop where the 6.0 IC gives a 100-150 degree drop.. for a quarter of the price.

for the 6.0 trans cooler to work you need a couple brass fittings, hose clamps and hose.

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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

for a cheap reliable set up... skip the 6.0 intercooler... waste of time. A good tow tune will go a long ways.

If you got the money just throw a GTP38R on there and be done with it.

Or...Get a 1.0 exhaust housing, a WW, and a tymar intake.

Like everyone else has said... Go with the 6.0 trans cooler (all you need is some 1/2" to 3/8" barbed adapters and some 1/2" tranny line)

then do some tranny mods, torque converter, shift kit or valve body...
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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

the tranny was built so the thing does not have to come back
out of this truck. When i tow my 20k its easy to hit 1300 deg
on egt towing fifth wheel. So nope a 7.3 intercooler dont work
trust me. I have done alot of towing in the usa and let me tell
you in 100 deg temps the inside of the engine compartment gets
toasty hot. One time i have to change a tire so i tried to touch
bars above the radiator couldnt they was to hot. I run synthetic
thru the whole truck, plus i run the evans coolant also.

this is why i ask for a better setup for my kind of towing.
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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

I would say water meth injection would rock! I would look into Snow Performance or CoolingMist

2002 F-350 CCLB 7.3 250,000 Miles *** 5" MKO Power Exhaust, 6637, Foil Delete, DB's HT Starter, EV2 Gauges, 6.0 IC/TC, Van Turbo, WW, Casserly Stg. 1 Singles, BTS VB, DP Tuner, HPX***
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Re: turbo, intercooler, trans cooler

really never thought of that one jkidd how much does it drop
the temps.
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