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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 05-10-2014, 02:26 AM Thread Starter
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Blown 38r

Im thinking I just blew my turbo on a hard pull. Loud pop (at first I thought I had a blown boot but checked them and their good) there is a tone of black smoke from exhaust and now what sounds like grinding under the hood. Truck starts good. Never had a chance to inspect it yet cause it happend on the way to work. Are these BB turbos rebuildable? Is it worth buying another 38r or should i step up to something else? Thanks

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Re: Blown 38r

They are not rebuildable, if you did toast it I would recommend a t4 mount and a s366

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Re: Blown 38r

Easiest is to pull intake spin the turbo check for play etc.
the cartrige for a bb 38 is alost asmuch as a new one.

Although it should have been a good fit for stage one sticks.
Did you boost it over 40...did it get proper shut down and oil feeds..

Did a glow plug tip fly through the back end etc..

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Re: Blown 38r

IIRC the biggest destroyer of the 38R if over boost. There are plenty of guys w/ 100+k miles w/ no issues.

It sucks it blew but any turbo will need to be kept in it's boost range.

If your tight on money there are some journal bearing options you might check out. IMHO, properly gate any turbo, to include the 38R, if you're needing more airflow and you have the $$, get a t4 mount and do a GTX4294.

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Re: Blown 38r

Had a peak this morning. Definately bearings went. Never could get more than 32psi out of this turbo. But I had approx 100k miles on it. Think I'm gonna go back to a38r. Gonna make some calls on Monday. Thanks.
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Re: Blown 38r

Throw the 38r compressor housing, wheel, back plate and exhaust housing on a stock turbo with a 360 bearing kit. Instant rebuildable journal bearing 66mm turbo.

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Re: Blown 38r

Interesting...so basically add center cartridge and boltup.
be worth a try. Would only be a couple hundred.

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Re: Blown 38r

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Interesting...so basically add center cartridge and boltup.
be worth a try. Would only be a couple hundred.
The question I ask is does it performe the same as the 38R?

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Re: Blown 38r

Close..probably same wheel but slightly more friction

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Close..probably same wheel but slightly more friction
That was kinda what I was thinking as well.

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