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Looking for engine upgrade input?

i`m wanting to start building up my engine a little more. Right now I have have pyro, boost, tranny gauges, afe stage 2 intake, mbrp 4" turbo back coold duals exhaust, xcal2 elite diesel tunes, hpop crossover hose, map maximizer. I `m looking at doing this in stages, and I don`t want to replace the stock rods. I`m thinking I would need to upgrade the fuel system , turbo, hpop, injectors, what else? Which fuel system would you pick and what size? Which hpop would you pick? Which turbo brand would you pick and what size? Injectors which brand and what size? Sorry I`ve done alot to the rest of my truck , but I really don`t knoe much about diesels? as you can tell? Thanks for any and all input!! Love the peeman!! In doing these in stages what order would you do these upgrade in?


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Re: Looking for engine upgrade input?

Your going to be very limited what you can do with your pmr's if you don't want to upgrade.

You can do the standard reg return, stage 1 injectors, bob's new adrenalin hpop and a 38r

Just my $.02...wouldn't want to go much more with pmr's

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What type of rwhp would that produce? I`m not looking to drag/pull any of that stuff. Just want to build better/safer rwhp. Which would you do first with the mods I already have?


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Re: Looking for engine upgrade input?

I'd probably do the regulated fuel return, HPOP and 38R then get some custom tunes before I would pull the injectors. I have heard a lot of good feedback with HPOP (big oil) and custom tunes with the stock injectors. I'm in the same boat (PMR's) as you. I haven't got to this point yet, but got a real good deal from DI on a 38R and I'm running some custom tunes from DP Tuner and have been real happy so far. Not sure what kind of HP I make, but would estimate around 350ish...last dyno run made 333 corrected before the custom tunes and 38R.

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ditch dawg I see your a ftw member also. I`m loghomeman over there. Stock rods ,big pain. I could see replacing them if they were bad, just can`t see going through all that cost when they are fine. Just have to be happy with as much hp as we can safely have!


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Re: Looking for engine upgrade input?

well, it will be debated over and over, but assume you can get about another 100 horse and thatll start pushing the limits. The problem youll run into is your rods just wont be "bad"...theyll also make your block bad. So if you think its expensive to change now, imagine if one of them fails.

If i were setting up a pmr motor, i would do a 38r turbo or other larger turbo of your choice, a regulated fuel system, and possibly a really small set of hybrids that are limited with nozzles or tuning. You could dial safe horsepower, and not have spent the money on a hpop as well. Also, money spent on a BTS or other built tranny would be a good idea as well. No point in making as much hp as you care to chance and not even be able to put it to the ground. Hope this helps give you some ideas.

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SWEEET Info !! Thanks!!


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fuel system like Fass or airdog or? If you are talking about these units , what size would I be looking for?


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Re: Looking for engine upgrade input?

Well there are 2 different parts to the fuel system, in my opinion. You have the motor side and the tank to motor side. The part you would benefit most from at lower power levels would be the regulated return on the motor. It allows fuel to circulate through the heads into an adjustable regulator, as opposed to feed one end of each head and dead end into the other end. It helps air pass through the system instead of build up pockets, as well as give an equal amount of fuel to all 8 injectors. Now as far as air goes, a FASS also removes air from the fuel in the way its filters/water seperator work. If youre going to run on pmr rods until the end of time, i see no idea why the 95 gph fass at the 55 psi would not be sufficient. Other options on the fuel delivery would be making your own system with a fuel lab or walbro inline pump of your choice.

The first mod i would do, depending on how your transmission is liking life, would be the turbo upgrade. A stock turbo at 30ish psi of boost (what an extreme file on stock injectors shoudl be capable of) will shorten its lifespan. The gtp38r bb turbo will lower egts, lower drive pressure and make hte motor work more efficiently. I would then address the transmission, then the fuel system, then injectors. just my opinion of course.

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Great info!!!http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...S&Category=447 What about this fuel system? I want to do a built tranny, right now I have about 103,800 miles and for now I`m going to just ride the old tranny until it`s dead. What is the big bad wooof turbo? Afew of our venders carry this one? Thanks ! Great info!!!!!


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