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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-27-2009, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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another compound turbo thread.....

ok im lookin to get stage 2 injectors back in the truck soon and would really like to have the resopnse and smoke cleanup of compounds and be towing with them.

thinkin for now sd turbo with 1.0ar housing or my existing van turbo upgrading to a gtp38r one of theese days just cant seem to make up my mine what to use over it. gt4202 ? hx50 or 55? s400? i ran across a hx50 with a 17cm wg housing for a good price i would like something with a t4 flange so if i need to change to differnt turbo theres lots with t4

too many things to think about....

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

The hx50/55's are too small as a primary charger.

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

go with a S400

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

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go with a S400

Reasonable price, and reliable.

Something like a 1.25-1.30 exhaust housing would be decent for towing.

Why do you want compounds with stage 2's? If you want to tow with them, get a modded H2E or convert to the Super Duty charger setup and drop a 38R in...

Save a TON of money and be as nice to drive.

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

I believe this... http://www.diesel-plus.com/dd_turbo.cfm?npid=7288

or This...http://www.diesel-plus.com/dd_turbo.cfm?npid=7287

May be more along the lines of what you are looking for in a good atmosphere charger...

And If you get real crazy, you could always go with this one...(my favorite) http://www.diesel-plus.com/dd_turbo.cfm?npid=9715...

FWIW, I don't know of any turbos with a T4 turbine housing that would be a "good" choice for an atmosphere charger... And there are just as many if not more options in a T6 Flange...IMO
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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

That last one the S500 is freakin huge!!!

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

I've got a Microsoft Excel spread sheat on compound and charger sizing that I'll try to go dig up. Charles gave the link to me, and he uses the spread sheet for himself.

Now I see what you were talking about on the phone Nate...that 500 is HUGE!!!

Here is the link...lots of great information in here!! http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/turboflow.html

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

I would recommend the S475, the one straight off a Detroit Series 60, you can get them for $600 or so on ebay, i did, and found out it's not what i needed, lol. It's an 88mm turbine exducer, with a 1.32 T6 housing.

Isnt an S510 larger than the S598? (110mm inducer opposed to 98mm)

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

ive got a van turbo on the truck right now, so a gtp38r is a drop in for me, i was just thinkin the sequentials would be able to have faster spool, clean up more smoke and more efficent. but if i did save the money and go with a single the bb could be gotten quicker

ok the t6 sounds like a better way to go, like ya said much more in that range i was lookin too small

psj- ya still got the 475 kickin round?


holy crap the s500 is huge!!

ill see if i can get pics of the turbos on the 9.8MW diesel gen sets at work, i can probably get pics during our next outage in they dont let us in there often radiation levels too high at full power....

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Re: another compound turbo thread.....

38R seems to be popular for the secondary,
as for the atmosphere, the bigger it is, the longer it takes to spool, but the more it puts out. it seems that a towing setup has the two turbos sized, relatively close together, but with the atmosphere large enough to pressurize the intake of the secondary efficiently.
Street setups have a slightly larger atmosphere, so it takes a little longer, but packs a bigger punch. It seems these work well for towing as well
Race setups tend to have ENORMOUS atmospheres... and pretty big secondary's too... IIRC I read that Zane of WOP has a turbo off a 31L diesel generator as his atmosphere...

FWIW, i'm not an expert, but relatively well read.

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