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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-17-2009, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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Anybody ever thought about running an air-to-water intercooler setup but instead of using coolant you could run your AC freon through it?

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-17-2009, 07:14 PM
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I would have serious doubts that the condenser is capable of handling that kind of heat load. Technically the refrigerant wouldn't be in a liquid form to get the cooling it would be a gas, changing from a liquid to a gas is where the cooling effect comes from.

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It would be a drag setup for sure but if it was R&D'd I think it could be done. Im just thinking out loud

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What's wrong with ice water? If the core is sized appropriately ice water will bring IAT down a LOT.

And before I would try and use freon, I would use liquid nitrogen or let Co2 decompress.

There are tons of companies that offer Co2 powered coolers. Remember, the small drop in temperature from the potential of using an AC compressor over just using ice water or similar is likely going to be more than offset by the parasitic loss associated with driving that compressor.
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You'd be a lot better off coming up with something you could put ice in, if it was drag only....like a Morosso cool can for fuel. Only, much bigger.

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Re: Air to water IC

I have seen the ricers run a Co2 kit on their IC's, never seen a diesel run one. No reason why it wouldn't work, just never seen it run before.

Charles, I agree about having to drive the compressor, I did think of that. Like I said, Im just thinkin out loud about difrent ways of running this thing.

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Don't spray the C02 on an intercooler. Your intake then sucks up the co2 and you end up with nicely cooled carbon dioxide for an intake charge. It doesn't burn very well, lol.

And they wonder why spraying No2 on the intercooler picks up so much more power.... I guess it just cools soooo much better on decompression than Co2 does, lol. That or the 50shot of spray that just found the air filter.

You can get small, inline coolers made to have Co2 run through them. Let me see if I can find an example.
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Don't spray the C02 on an intercooler. Your intake then sucks up the co2 and you end up with nicely cooled carbon dioxide for an intake charge. It doesn't burn very well, lol.

And they wonder why spraying No2 on the intercooler picks up so much more power.... I guess it just cools soooo much better on decompression than Co2 does, lol. That or the 50shot of spray that just found the air filter.

You can get small, inline coolers made to have Co2 run through them. Let me see if I can find an example.
Just ran through that scenario with a local ricer. He said he was pickin up extra HP after sprayin the cooler

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Re: Air to water IC

I've thought about this for awhile, but as far as i can tell, it would take more energy than it's really worth. Maybe I haven't thought of everything

the way I thought would work best would be to have a W/A intercooler setup, and after having the water cooled by the radiator, then by the extra cooling system.

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Why not have it's own cooling system?
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