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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-23-2013, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
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want more power...turbo setup advice

Alright guys heres what I got.
2000 7.3 6 speed(SB clutch) unlimited 160/30 singles stock turbo with ww2 and turbo master wastgate controller. I am looking for just that little bit more air to take advantage of my fuel. With the hot tunes this thing smokes pretty hard even at 35 psi boost. SO obviously I could use a little more air. I don't want to move up to bigger sticks but I would like to get the very most out of these. SO what turbo options would ya'll be looking into. I still have the stock uppies(they don't leak a bit) but will be upgrading to bellowed if I go 38r. Are the H2E turbos comparable in airflow or Back pressure to boost ratio to the 38R? how bout other setups like some of the S300 setups? that use the t4 or t4I foot? I don't want to have a laggy turbo or one with bad back pressure issues. I like the fact that the 38r uses the stock waste gate so I can reuse my turbo master and my deleted housing and keep my exaust system unchanged. But if theres another turbo setup that will out perform the 38R with 160/30 sticks i'll look into it.

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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

I think a stock h2e or an s362 could clear those up. The only real advantage to 38r is price and there is a 38r with bellowed up pipes in the classifieds. modded h2e is tough and I know they have better back pressure to boost ratio than an s366. You built your bed, just buy a turbo and build your own mount and up-pipes
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

hahah, yeah I can cut and weld but that doesn't mean I can properly setup a turbo! I just feel like the 38r would be a better fit for me. (well under 450hp) But the price is still up there.(the 38r plus the bellowed uppies) and a ww2 for it. If I had plans to go bigger sticks I think I would go with the t4 but after searching the forums for the past hour I feel like id be getting into a bigger and more expensive headache going that route. Just curious but have you dynoed your setup with the h2e and your 200% sticks?

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Php hydra chip PHP tuned! 4" exhaust, stock turbo(ww2, turbomaster wastage actuator, gutted ebpv), FRX, 160/30 sticks SB 1939-CB single clutch, home brew water setup for when i'm pulling hay through the mountains.
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

Well like I said there is a good deal on a 38r with bellowed up pipes in the classifieds. Naw no dyno time but I got all next week to tinker with it next week
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

thanks I saw that....when it comes to turbos I deffinatly buy new. It is a good deal though for everything it comes with. I just prefer new so I know exactly what im getting and know what it has been through. I do believe though I may try and pick up a set of bellowed uppipes used if I can find a good deal.

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Php hydra chip PHP tuned! 4" exhaust, stock turbo(ww2, turbomaster wastage actuator, gutted ebpv), FRX, 160/30 sticks SB 1939-CB single clutch, home brew water setup for when i'm pulling hay through the mountains.
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

Lots of good reasons for the 38R--sounds like it is what you want and it will be a nice improvement.. git er done. Im guessing that a CAC will go on as well, or do you already have one?

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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

Are you talking an intercooler? yes my stock one....I wasn't sure on the other options out there when I posted this... I searched and read for bout an hour and found out the different things needed and waste gating options and things like that and it just seems like it would be a pain and a lot of money for what I want to do. So yes I believe I will just stick with a 38R and possibly throw the ww2 on it while im at it to cut the whistle down.

On a side note does anyone here know if a 38r will completely clean up 160/30 sticks at there full bore? cause this stock turbo doesn't even come close.

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Php hydra chip PHP tuned! 4" exhaust, stock turbo(ww2, turbomaster wastage actuator, gutted ebpv), FRX, 160/30 sticks SB 1939-CB single clutch, home brew water setup for when i'm pulling hay through the mountains.
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

I would look at a qssb or gqssb similar to an h2e or modded h2e.
The nice thing about a t4 turbo is once you have the mount turbos are not super costly.

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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

my only problem with going t4 now is that it seems to me the 38r can support way more HP than I would be comfortable pushing a 7.3 to as a daily driver that I depend on. I play around with a 12v truck that I make big HP with and don't really care if it blows up! this 7.3 is more of my daily driver long term transportation/farm/tow truck. I just want to be able to clean up 160 injectors all the way! A puff before the turbo lights is fine but this black cloud has got to go. I'm tired of driving around in my heavy tow tune just to keep it from hazing out the cars behind me.

2000 f250 ECSB Dually 4.10s 305/70/16, 4x4 7.3 zf6 200k miles
Php hydra chip PHP tuned! 4" exhaust, stock turbo(ww2, turbomaster wastage actuator, gutted ebpv), FRX, 160/30 sticks SB 1939-CB single clutch, home brew water setup for when i'm pulling hay through the mountains.
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Re: want more power...turbo setup advice

With those sticks i would do a QSSB. It would work aweaome.

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