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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 01-13-2013, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

Here are some more test results of testing with the WWG2. The test vehicle is as follows:

2003 F350 CC, Dually 4WD, VDH5 (TNAA7S3), 230K miles, Injectors and HPOP replaced 6 mos. ago. Otherwise, the truck is completely stock.

As usual, testing was with 8000 Lbs load on the dyno. All runs we competed in 3rd gear locked. Speed was held at a steady 1400 RPM until full throttle was applied. Data sampling was taken from 1500 RPM to 3500 RPM. All testing was achieved with engine and transmission at normal operating temperature with 70 ambient air temp. All runs were datalogged to obtain boost and backpressure readings, along with monitoring EOT, ICP, IPR, and other critical data. Unfortunately, this vehicle was not equipped with a pyrometer so we were not able to observe any changes in EGTs. Datalog pressures were verified with a mechanical boost gauge and are considered to be accurate with +/- 0.25 PSI.

Generated results are as follow:

Stock ECM calibration (minus Speed Limiter and Rev Limiter) - Stock wheel vs. WWG2

Boost:
  • Stock:
    • 7.8 PSI @ 2000
    • 14.3 PSI @ 2500
    • 16.2 PSI @ 3500
  • WWG2:
    • 7.5 PSI @ 2000
    • 14.7 PSI @ 2500
    • 19.8 PSI @ 3500

Backpressure:
  • Stock:
    • 11.9 PSI @ 2000
    • 23.9 PSI @ 2500
    • 31.1 PSI @ 3500
  • WWG2:
    • 10.6 PSI @ 2000
    • 23.3 PSI @ 2500
    • 33.5 PSI @ 3500

Dyno Graphs:
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Overall Gains:
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Standard PHP 40 Tow - Stock wheel vs. WWG2

Boost:
  • Stock:
    • 8.6 PSI @ 2000
    • 15.0 PSI @ 2500
    • 18.5 PSI @ 3500
  • WWG2:
    • 7.8 PSI @ 2000
    • 16.2 PSI @ 2500
    • 23.8 PSI @ 3500

Backpressure:
  • Stock:
    • 13.4 PSI @ 2000
    • 24.7 PSI @ 2500
    • 35.5 PSI @ 3500
  • WWG2:
    • 10.2 PSI @ 2000
    • 23.2 PSI @ 2500
    • 37.4 PSI @ 3500

Dyno Graphs:
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Overall Gains:
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Overall Gain - Stock ECM/Stock Wheel vs. PHP 40 Tow Calibration/WWG2

Dyno Graphs:
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Overall Gains:
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We will be testing another S/D vehicle later this week (Friday) and will post up those results as well as they become available.

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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 01-14-2013, 05:25 PM
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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

Awesome results. How did the stock compressor wheel look with 230k?

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post #3 of 46 (permalink) Old 01-14-2013, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

It was actually pretty well worn, like someone ran a cheap filter for a while. Edges of the fins were a little worn, although no chunks were missing. New wheels definitely was a smart move, regardless.

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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

How difficult is it to swap wheels?
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Get on youtube and search wicked wheel install
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post #6 of 46 (permalink) Old 01-15-2013, 03:04 AM Thread Starter
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Experienced folks can easily swap in less than 2 hours. First timers, maybe 4 hours. The V-Band clamp on the up-pipe spider is a pain to get off, but lots of PB Blaster, a flat blade screwdriver, and a few choice words will usually help it come right off. Everything else is pretty straightforward. Make sure to not forget the EBV control rod below the exhaust housing. You'll go to yank the turbo off and start cussing because you missed it. It has a snap clip (with a right angle tab) which holds the actuator rod onto the EBV control arm. With a small screwdriver or pair of needlenose pliers, slide the clip TOWARDS the turbo pedestal to release the actuator rod. When reinstalling the turbo, make sure to line up the actuator rod with the EBV control arm BEOFRE bolting the turbo in place. Otherwise it's a real bugger to bet back on the pivot for the EBV control arm.

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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

i want one!!!

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^^ what he said !

bill: when are you going to start selling them ?
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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

Ive been to about 10 dyno days and seen chipped sd 7.3s make more then those numbers with the factory wheel. Gaining boost doesn't mean more power, you could port the heads and you'll loose boost but you won't loose power.
Not saying this isn't worth it but considering how cheap new compressor wheels are just for a turbo, 20-60 bucks. But when diesel is put in front of turbo it becomes a $200+ wheel. Just a big cash grab. Get enough advertising talking how great the snuggie is, when it is still a robe you put on backwards.,

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Re: WWG2 Test - Stock F350 Dually

Well of coarse you've seen chipped trucks make more...but I bet they weren't duallys running only a 40tow tune....

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