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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-03-2013, 02:26 AM Thread Starter
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chips, tunes, and MPG ...

please excuse my ignorance but I am new to the PSTD and the 7.3 so I will have a few off the wall questions.

My old Benz diesel pushes some pavement when I punch on it so I expected this 7.3 beast to really bark when it is asked to. Well, it's sluggish but runs great. It's a 2000 with only 110K miles and one owner. I got 20 mpg when bringing it back from SoFla.

After reading all the posts and opines about chips and performance AND the manufacturers claiming to get BETTER mileage with these performance upgrades ... I am skeptical to say the least. Extra performance means more fuel and more air ... always has. How can a set of tunes, an intake mod and exhaust mod increase performance AND mpg?

I would like more response and performance and am willing to pay for it BUT I do not want to loose mpg and reliability either.
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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

Most of the starting mods (intake and exhaust) make for less restriction so the flow of the system is better. Easy in easy out. Second the tunes make the truck run more efficeintly by changing the power curve, shift points, etc.

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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

Your not going to do better than 20mpg. That is a freak thing in my opinion unless your on flat land with a single cab 2wd. Or you have a cummins in it, .

You can't have it all as they say. Once you add power, you will sacrifice reliability and mpg may change in some instances, up 1mpg but your right foot will determine that. Mine went down because I like the power too much.

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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

Consider your 20mpg good. You usually do not lose MPG's when adding a chip, but you also can't expect a huge gain either. The biggest factor in mileage is your driving style and habits.

The main benefit with a tuner is gaining better drivability and performance without sacrificing mileage and reliability(dependent on you... Use your head).
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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

Mine gets better mpg towing with my chip. Without the trailer not so.

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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

At 72 mph, with my 6spd crew cab 4x4 gets 18-18.5 without the chip and 19-19.5 with the chip. This is all relatively unloaded, just the family and luggage, and all highway. The chip did help me. BUT, I drive it like it does not have a chip. If you hot rod it, I imagine you will lose mpg instead. On a long trip this year, I had to slow down to 65 mph and that produced a tank of 20.3 mpg. I have a cap with a small bump, which may help as well.

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Re: chips, tunes, and MPG ...

just changing from an e99 to a pmt2 pcm gained me 1.5 mpg...the reason i attribute to better shifting, and tc lock up strategy.
so better tuning can help for sure.

I actually didnt gain any by doing the intake on mine probably because the stock box was cracked and free flowing.

the exhaust is mildly better in flow so that might attribute to some.

as far as being sliggish remember your benz does not weigh 7000 plus pounds.
but a 7.3 will be very reliable.

things to check water pumps..add external coolant filter
ball joints and hubs on 4wd models
see if cps was changed under recall
fuel bowl drain valve -either a 45$ part or diy fix remove 4 torq screws and replace two orings.
if you tow i would do a v10 or tru cool or 6.0 tranny filter and look into helwig anti sway bars or air bags if you tow heavy.

also know that when you chip a truck the overhead mpg calc gets thrown off a bit.

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