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I'm ready to order injectors for my truck. I'm not sure what size I want to get. I have decided on Swamps. I am also going with their tuning. I use the truck to daily drive to work on all country roads. I may tow 2 Jeeps on a trailer, or 17k of firewood. I tow only a couple of times a month. I drive like a grandpa most of the time, but like to have lots of power to use and play with now and then. I'm not sure if I should go with the 175/162 stage 1's or the 200/30 stage 2's. They also can do any other size I want. Just looking for opinions and experiences. Thank You!

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200/30's will be easier on oil.
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Not true... The stage 1's will not use anymore oil then the hybrids, and the stage 1's will offer better atomization at the nozzle due to the 7:1 injection ratio.

I would go with the stage 1's or a 160/100 injector.

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seriously i would ask swamps.
they are doing the tunes, know the exact questions to ask and are great at what they do.

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Just my .02 here but Stage I's aren't enough jump. That being said, I didn't really need Stage III's either. If I had to do it again, I would go with stage II's. In the higher settings, my Stage III's scare the hell out of me. EGT's skyrocket. I am not going to a bigger turbo(38r like you) so II's would have been enough.

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Not true... The stage 1's will not use anymore oil then the hybrids, and the stage 1's will offer better atomization at the nozzle due to the 7:1 injection ratio.

I would go with the stage 1's or a 160/100 injector.
I have had my eyes on the 160/80 and 160/100 also. What would be the difference between the /80 and /100? I know the nozzle is bigger on the 100 but what difference in power/driveabity is there? Most companies I saw only offered the 160/80. I'm not sure why? As said by killipapia, I want to make sure I do a big enough jump in power to make it worth the $. Also want to keep running/driving quality.

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There is very little difference between a 80% and 100% nozzle. I prefer the 100% nozzle on an AC injector.

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Not true... The stage 1's will not use anymore oil then the hybrids, and the stage 1's will offer better atomization at the nozzle due to the 7:1 injection ratio.

I would go with the stage 1's or a 160/100 injector.
Joe..this is completely wrong.

everything

a 200cc hybrid has over 10% less stroke than a 160cc Acode single shot

or to make this crystal clear..

a "160cc HYBRID" would use FORTY percent LESS HPOil than a 160cc Acode...

this is not insignificant...

I've NEVER had a customer 'run out' of HPOil, even with old HPOPs...becuase the 200s simply use VERY little HPOil to run to full stroke...

ie..they'll maintiain full injection pressure more reliably than an Acode.

as far as the 10 year old (and inaccurate) information about pressure AT the nozzle...

the hybrids actually will make MORE pressure at the nozzle...regardless of what the math says...

shocked the hell out of me 6 years ago when we showed this on our flow bench...but it's gospel now, and not even debatable.

I'll be GLAD to explain it to you...but hybrids will make more pressure at the nozzle than an Acode. period.

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i like this guy ^^^ awesome stuff comign from swamps!
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