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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-08-2012, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
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ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

So i was doing a little research and came across some info that got me thinking. I knowbthe original ww is used for surge issues. But this new gen 2 ww appears to outflow a stock turbo and give surge relief.
So here is my question...some people say a van turbo is an ok upgrade and a 38r is lots better. Where does this new gen 2 fall in this scale? I cant seem to find much info.on it. Anyone have any insight? Numbers would be good or an explaination as to why the gen 2 falls where itbdoes. I'm assuming it would go like this.
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Van turbo and Gen 2 equal to one another
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Yes i realize this is a new product and its not in full time production yet. But any info as to how they all compare right now would be nice. Even if its cfm, static pressure and x psi at y rpms would be helpful. I will research and.post once i can put together a decent comparison list with specs

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

PHP is the first person to try one out. Other then that they are going to have some guys start testing them so no one owns one yet.

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

I would say a stock sd turbo with ww2 and a 1.0 ex housing, high flow outlet and a turbo master would be just one sep under a 38r, I don't like van turbo do to lack of waste gate and the 1.15 is to big for my 6 speed truck, might be okay on an automatic though?

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

Still lagy on an automatic. I have the ww2 with van turbo. It is best at 3200 rpms just not in the low rpms.

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

Currently running a ww2 on a van turbo. With 160/30 injectors it spools just slightly slower than everything stock.

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

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Currently running a ww2 on a van turbo. With 160/30 injectors it spools just slightly slower than everything stock.
Your running the same setup as me, except I'm running the stock .84 housing, with a wastage,...what rpm are you spooling at? Mine is coming alive at about 1600 rpm and really takes off at 1800... Just curious since you have the same sticks as mine and probably same gearhead tuning. With my wastage set at 34psi my egts never get over 1200

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Re: ww vs gen 2 ww vs van turbo

I'd say starts at 1800, comes alive about 2000-2100. With an auto its not bad to drive at all. Matt's all out tune is a little smokey till it lites.

She's good enough to make a guy on a custom 1400 sportster wonder what the hell was going on when he tried to pass me lol.

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