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Traction Bar Length?

for those that have built your own what was your overall length? Is longer better . FWIW, these are not going to be daily driven, Sled pulls only.
I have 2 -8' pieces of 1-3/4" DOM tubing.

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Re: Traction Bar Length?

If you want them to purposefully bind your rear axle and help limit travel then longer and more horizontal the better.
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If you want them to purposefully bind your rear axle and help limit travel then longer and more horizontal the better.
7' 1" seems to be the # in the search forum for CC SB trucks , mine is a long bed.

Charles, are you saying thats a good thing or bad? binding is usally not a good thing, or do you mean it as locking it in to a fixed position?

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Re: Traction Bar Length?

Correct. It seems to be the opinion of the pullers that the more rigid the rear axle the better. Purposefully binding the link would limit travel.
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Re: Traction Bar Length?

8' bars put the front hanger right at the back of thre front doors

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Re: Traction Bar Length?

Mine are at the center of the rear doors. Works for me. Don't have an actual length.

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Re: Traction Bar Length?

Mine are 85"(7'1") for my CC LB and work great. If I preload them towards the front(shorten them) as tight as I can with my hands only, they ride normal. If I unload them or preload them towards the rear(lengthen them) any amount the ride is somewhat stiffer than stock. Not jaw rattling but it is firmer.

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If you want them to purposefully bind your rear axle and help limit travel then longer and more horizontal the better.
But that's the complete opposite of how they actually work.
The longer the bar, the more travel you get out of the axle. A very short bar will bind the axle in a hurry, but a long horizontal bar gives great travel, no bind. Although a lot will depend on how they are mounted. A single tab below the axle will control wrap and give good axle travel. Having mounts above and below the axle and a short bar will limit travel greatly and cause bind.

I switched from short bars to long bars last fall and the travel/ride quality is amazing. You can easily see how they work/bind by just jacking up the axle...
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Well, if you have a rear leafpack that is damn near flat, then yes, as it will pattern the arc of the link for the most part. I thought most superduty rear springs had some decent arc to them, course I might have been looking at my 6" springpack one to many times, lol.

If you ran a horizontal link to my springpack it would arc straight up for all intents and purposes (although actually toward the front of the truck slightly) while my springpack would arc the axle rearward and up quite a bit as it compressed because of the angle of the forward half of the spring pack between perch and hangar.

In my case and many others, a horizontal link would travel in a path opposite that of the springpack causing the springpack to have to wrap in the same direction the drive torque would normally wrap it in order to cycle on compression.

In your case it sounds like your leafpack is nearly horizontal itself. If that's the case then what I said was wrong.

Sorry. I must have been looking at to many lifted trucks.
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Re: Traction Bar Length?

ended up @ 88" not counting the eyes on both ends, looks to be just about center of the rear doors. will see, might get them them on tommorrow still need to fab the mounting brackets.

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