I have a little over 15k on mine and they don't look much different than when they were new. Alot of people think are surprised when i tell em they have 15k or so. Don't get me wrong bfg at's are awesome tires. I have owned at least 6-7 sets of them and still have some on my stock wheels. They are one of the best all around tires made. Which ever one you choose will be a great choice! The toyos are actually cheaper on the 20 lol.