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Okay here's my issue, I have an 05 with a 6 speed manual. I haul a lot of stuff and drive around town a lot when I'm not hauling. My truck is a dog between gears and seems to fall on its face, if I'm tacking it out every gear it's okay and I understand when I have weight on but it acts the same when I'm empty. So I was thinking maybe if I get away from the VGT turbo and go with maybe a s300 or some kind of non VGT turbo it might help. I have a powermax now and Eric and innovative tried to help me out with some tuning but it seems to work the best on the SCT canned tow tunes but won't have any balls. Any opinions??


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Okay here's my issue, I have an 05 with a 6 speed manual. I haul a lot of stuff and drive around town a lot when I'm not hauling. My truck is a dog between gears and seems to fall on its face, if I'm tacking it out every gear it's okay and I understand when I have weight on but it acts the same when I'm empty. So I was thinking maybe if I get away from the VGT turbo and go with maybe a s300 or some kind of non VGT turbo it might help. I have a powermax now and Eric and innovative tried to help me out with some tuning but it seems to work the best on the SCT canned tow tunes but won't have any balls. Any opinions??


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Do you have a single plane billet wheel in your powermax?

Yes, not the batmowheel or anything just the garret factory powermax wheel


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Yes, not the batmowheel or anything just the garret factory powermax wheel


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Factory for a garret powermax. Not a factory turbo.


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Sorry I was just confused about you answer, anyways I would look for a single plane billet wheel to drop in before totally switching to a non vgt set. It cost a lot of money to switch over to non vgt from vgt, you'll have to buy an oil feed, oil drain, pedestal, and divided up pipes just to run the turbo. Then on top of that you'll need to buy the turbo and get new tunes written. A single plane billet wheel is well worth trying because it only runs around $200ish from any of the vendors on here. I would also try tuning from drew at back roads performance, he has amazing tunes and will work with you until your happy.

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Cheaper to put the wheel in at first. Later if you go to a non-vgt the Pmax is more desirable with the single plane wheel.


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Cheaper to put the wheel in at first. Later if you go to a non-vgt the Pmax is more desirable with the single plane wheel.

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IMO what you are describing will not be fixed by going to be fixed by a non-vgt. In fact... it will probably get worse. Vgt turbo on average spool faster than non-vgt... if you are losing boost between shifts then a non-vgt turbo will more than likely exaggerate that problem even more.



A single plane billet wheel will definitely help out. The cast stock wheel that comes in the powermax is total garbage. IMO the powermax is not a very good turbo... until you get a billet wheel and some good tunes for it.

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Thinking about it a little more... you might actually have something wrong with you truck. I would check all the sensors and make sure you have not boost/exhaust leaks. Here are some helpful tips. If you have a boost leak then it will do exactly what you are describing in between gears. I had a 7.3 with an auto tranny that did the same thing... ended up being a big boost leak.


These are a few of the more common problems. I can tell you that TONS of guys are running around with these issues right now and don't even know it. Go through them all and check them out.


Exhaust leaks are a big problem. Bigger turbos will usually make leaks worse. Check the ypipe bellows and the ypipe to turbo connection. Those are very common. An easy way to check it would be to have someone stick the truck in drive, hold the brake, and give it some gas. Push the pedal as hard as you can without causing the truck to move. Look for any smoke coming out from behind the turbo. If you see any smoke then you need to find and fix the leak.


Boost leaks are also a big problem. The most common areas are the boots on the charge pipe, plastic ends on the intercooler, and the plastic hot side charge pipe on the drivers side. If you have a plastic charge pipe on your drivers side then replace it ASAP. They will not hold up under high boost. You can check for boost leaks in the same way as an exhaust leak. MAKE SURE THE TRUCK IS COLD. Have someone stick the truck in drive, hold the brake, and give it some gas. Push the pedal as hard as you can without causing the truck to move. Use your hand to follow the lines from the turbo to the intercooler and then from the intercooler to the intake manifold. Feel for any leaks. Some people use soapy water too.



Pull and check all of the following sensors. Use your programmer to make sure they are reading right.

MAP sensor located on passenger side by the air box. Make sure the tube going from the sensor to the motor is not cracked. Make sure the tube and sensor are clean and not plugged.

MAF sensor is located between the air filter and turbo. make sure it is clean and plugged in.

EBP sensor is located off the exhaust manifold on the drivers side. There is a tube going from the exhaust manifold to the sensor. It is very common to clog and have issues. Clean out the tube and make sure the sensor is not clogged.

IAT sensor is connected to the top of the intake manifold near the fuel bowl. Pull it out and make sure it is clean. It is very common to get covered in crap. Clean it and make sure it is connected right.

Baro sensor is located under the dashboard. Make sure it is plugged in and reading right.

VGT solenoid. The vgt wire/pigtail are very common to have cracks, slices, and breaks in it, especially right where it plugs into the solenoid. Double check everything to make sure it is working right. An easy way to check and see if it is working right is while the truck is running. plug and unplug the sensor. You should be able to hear the exhaust sound changing when you do that.



These don't relate directly to boost but it is still a good thing to check. They can really hurt performance.
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