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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-09-2012, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
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What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

I run a 175/75 injector with the stock 03 turbo and a full 4" exhaust. Running Vivians tow tune now that has been cut back some for high EGT's. I see 1000* EGT's constantly on a head wind or on a slight up slope at 65-70mph. I have tons of power if I mash the pedal but the EGT's climb so I just maintain pedal and the EGT's creep to 1100* and I loose around 5mph before the top of the hill. I'm at 2200ft above sea level. This happens when towing a 9000# loaded camper. Just cruising empty truck I see 650-700*. Is this all normal? Am I in need of a turbo, ported intake, or cutback tuning? I want to get the EGT's down some while being able to climb or pull steadily. I don't like 4 digit EGT's.

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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

Yes this is normal and is actually REALLY good IMO considering you have a stock turbo. I think your best bet would be a MTW Stage 2 VGT turbo. It flows A LOT more air than the stock turbo and is just a little bit more than a ported intake manifold and an intercooler wont do anything for you right now. JMO and hope it helps.

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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

Thanks for the info. I'm hearing that all over it seems. I'd still like to drop the temps some since I'll be towing more with me next camper (bigger). I'm not familiar with the turbo. Who sells them and is there info on the net about them?

I'm all for the idea of a turbo helping and am considering getting another 03 intake to work since I have some milling and machining access.

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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

Yea Dave no problem at all. Unfortuneately there isn't a whole lot of info on the web as far as advertising goes but on some other sites there are A LOT of reviews. Just google MAD Turbo, MTW Stage, MAD Stage, etc. and I'm sure you'll find some more information. Dozer's Diesel is a vendor for Adrian's (fedexairmech on here) but I am not sure if they list them on their website. Either way you can call Adrian at 412-527-3099. JJ at Dozer's Diesel can give you some more information as well. The bottomline though is you need more airflow and while I think you definitely benefit from both a turbo and an intake manifold, I think if you can only buy one, you should get a turbo.

This Stage 2 turbo is built from a Garrett GT4088 turbo that takes the compressor end and sticks it onto the stock turbo turbine end. It is really a turbo modification as opposed to a completely brand new turbo (the compressor end of course is BRAND new but the turbine end is just a rebuild where it is completely cleaned, sand blasted, clear coat painted with high temp enamel, and rebuilt with new bearings and seals so it might as well be brand new). Your stock turbo has a 58mm x 82mm compressor wheel w/ a .58ar compressor housing where the Stage 2 has a 64.7mm x 88mm compressor wheel w/ a whopping .72ar (a lot more airflow) compressor housing. This turbo without any special tuning as already shown great success with stock turbo tunes and 175/75s and 190/75s, but I am sure there is more to be had from the turbo via live tuning.

I highly recommend calling Adrian for pricing and what have you. I can tell you though they are VERY reasonably priced. They even come with a 6 month unconditional warranty (aside for abuse and/or neglect). Basically, if you have a problem that can not be solved over the phone, Adrian will pay for you ship the turbo to him so he can figure out what is wrong and fix it, then he will ship it back to you for free. If that isn't awesome enough, he will even allow you to trade your turbo back in for the purchase price (minus $200 for reconditioning) to use towards a larger turbo, should you decide that the turbo you bought was too small and/or you decide you want to go bigger with your build. The bottomline is that Adrian is in this to help 6.0 owners and not just do this to get rich off of folks.

Hope this helps. If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

Awesome detail and explanation. I actually remember hearing about Dozer and turbo's somewhere. I'll get looking. Iwant to do the intake work myself so I feel the turbo is the best option now too. Just need to close on one of my houses and I can get to it.

Thanks for the info. I'll surely look around on this.

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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

I highly recommend Adrian for sure. I'm about to get a stage one from him. He's been a lot of help and answered all my questions. Definitely a good dude

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You are not in need of a turbo at all! Those EGT's are perfectly normal, 4 digit EGT's are not a concern unless you are holding them over 1250-1300 for extended periods (several minutes non-stop). I would expect your EGT's to be 700-800 on flat ground, and well over a 1000 going up hills with the trailer you are pulling. I would not feel the need to change anything with the EGT's you are reporting.


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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?



But if you are looking to lower egts some, I'd look into a ported intake manifold before replacing the turbo though. Even distribution of air flow to every cylinder is going to be more effective than trying to push more air by volume through a restriction.

Not saying a charger flowing more air wont be effective though.
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Re: What's my next step for lower towing EGT's?

I'm looking to cut and port my own intake. I love doing that kind of stuff. I'm only pulling 9000# loaded now. My next camper will be 13,000# dry and I have toys I want to load. I'm sure the temps will go up from here. Is holding 1000* for 60 miles straight OK?

I'd like having more range of use than what I think I have now. I don't like seeing 1200* at all myself. Maybe I'm too cautious.

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You can pull with 1100egt all day long. 1200 for a great while. Up hills in AZ(6,7, and even 8% grades) I see 1350egt the whole hill sometimes hitting 1400 but I back out. This is for a 7.3 though.


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