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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-28-2011, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
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Got A Problem No Start

Ok well I am restoring from my head stud install and went to crank the truck for the first time. I had the Edge CTS on and was watching ICP and FICM voltage and I had my little malibu supporting the batteries with jumper cables. Well I started cranking and ICP read 0 and FICM voltage was 49V and after cranking for about 30 seconds to a minute it fired up. ICP started at 0 and I could watch it build and it built to above 200psi and then it fired right up and was running great. Well I had an oil leak on my oil cooler delete that required me to shut the truck off that I had to attend to. Well after tightening the fitting down I went back to try and start the truck again and it was like I never started it before and I had to build ICP all over again and it would get up to just over 200 psi but still would not fire. Any ideas?? I am a total loss and can only think that it must be that my batteries are just not quite fully charged enough to spin the motor fast enough to build the ICP up enough to start but I dont know. When I did try it a second and third time ICP would only get just to 200 psi and on the third time it was like 190-195psi and FICM voltage was 48.5Vs which would indicate a dying battery. So I am thinking that I just need to get my batteries freshened up and then ICP will get to like 225psi which I think is probably required to start. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-28-2011, 11:56 PM
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Re: Got A Problem No Start

get the batteries fully charged and the watch icp pressure. if it starts you will have run it hard to get all the air out of the system to get it to start quicked after that

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Thats what Im thinking. I ran across a guy on hear about a couple of months ago that was unable to get his truck to start and it was because he did have a bad seal or something of the sort around an injector but he was only able to get his ICP up to like 50 psi tops.

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Probly got a piece of trash in the ipr valve and sucked the screen in


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get the batteries fully charged and the watch icp pressure. if it starts you will have run it hard to get all the air out of the system to get it to start quicked after that
Not a good idea after just putting new headgaskets on
Drive it for 15-20 miles and get it hot it will start from there


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Probly got a piece of trash in the ipr valve and sucked the screen in.
I sure hope not. I put in a brand new IPR valve with screen and orings. Now remember it was me that shut the truck off and not that the truck quit running. Also I think I only ran it for about 1 minute maybe 2 at the most.

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I sure hope not. I put in a brand new IPR valve with screen and orings. Now remember it was me that shut the truck off and not that the truck quit running. Also I think I only ran it for about 1 minute maybe 2 at the most.
Doesn't matter if it's new it only takes a little piece of dirt or trash and it will suck the ipr screen in
If your building 200 psi and it's not starting most likely it will be the ipr


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To the best of my knowledge You need to have 500 psi ICP before the ECM will command the FICM to fire the injectors. While your cranking the ECM will command the IPR to close more to try and build sufficient pressure to start the engine. Seems like your IPR valve is not closing and therfore not building pressure. Also if there is no signal / connection to the IPR it will also be open and dump all your pressure but you would most likely get a code for this.
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Ok thanks guys for the info on the IPR. Since I have to first fix my small oil leak, what I am going to do is get a new hose end and adapter fitting and once I get those replaced I will try using a battery charger and starter to see if the truck will start. If it doesnt then I will go after the IPR valve. I still have my old one that was working fine when I pulled it out. The screen was dirty which was why I replaced it all. I think what I will do is get a screen kit for it and change them out and see if it works. Does that sound like a plan??

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So I have a question about pulling the IPR valve. Can it be pulled with the turbo on?? I have the socket and can get it on but am having trouble turning the valve loose because I cant move my socket due to there not being enough space. I really hate to pull the turbo and everything off just to get to it but will do so if I have to. Any mechanic tricks???

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