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Air in oil filter housing

Iím fooling with a 2004 6.0 and itís a no start . There is zero oil pressure on the dash gauge . I removed the oil filter cap and cranked the engine and I noticed small air bubbles and then some large air bubbles followed by some oil . Iím putting a new starter in since this one doesnít turn the engine fast enough and gets very hot very quickly. Any thoughts ?
Broken pick up tube ? Bad o ring ?


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Before you do anything else I would remove the oil pump regulator and see if there is debris in it. If there is I would remove the oil pump and check for any imprints of needle bearings and inspect the overall condition of the pump gears. It’s the Allen bolt on the passenger side of the pump housing by the balancer
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Re: Air in oil filter housing

Im going with low on oil, broken pick up tube or bad low pressure oil pump.

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Re: Air in oil filter housing

Iíve seen the needle bearing failure first hand so Iím not ruling that out . The truck is being towed to the shop tomorrow or Friday. Iím going to look at it ASAP . I just wanted a head start so to speak on diag . Iím fooling with a B model 3406 thatís leaking fuel and Sterling road tractor that has some AC problem . Thanks for the input and Iíll keep yíall posted .


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Ok I finally got to the shop to look at this thing . Found it 8 quarts low on oil so I added oil , replaced the starter as well . I then removed the oil pressure relief valve and it was clean as a whistle. The engine turns over much faster but the batteryís need charged . I burned up my alternator in my service truck . Still have air in the system when cranking while the oil filter cap is off . Another observation is that the oil filter is never soaked in oil regardless of how long you crank it . Is there a possibility of a messed up drain valve in the bottom of the oil filter housing . I can crank the engine long enough that the oil will overflow out of the housing with cap and filter removed .


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Ok I finally got to the shop to look at this thing . Found it 8 quarts low on oil so I added oil , replaced the starter as well . I then removed the oil pressure relief valve and it was clean as a whistle. The engine turns over much faster but the batteryís need charged . I burned up my alternator in my service truck . Still have air in the system when cranking while the oil filter cap is off . Another observation is that the oil filter is never soaked in oil regardless of how long you crank it . Is there a possibility of a messed up drain valve in the bottom of the oil filter housing . I can crank the engine long enough that the oil will overflow out of the housing with cap and filter removed .


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Looks to me like you have a tall oil filter cap. If you have an OEM oil filter and a tall cap, you NEVER will close the filter housing drain valve.

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Looks to me like you have a tall oil filter cap. If you have an OEM oil filter and a tall cap, you NEVER will close the filter housing drain valve.


Thatís what I was thinking . Iíll go pick up a different oil filter tomorrow and retest .


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If I were you I would buy an OEM oil filter cap and an OEM oil filter.

Your cap clearly says to NOT re-use and I bet it was re-used.

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