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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 06-25-2017, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

and dont get me wrong guys, if the GF wasn't getting PO'ed about the cost of this journey, id run it up to temp and not care. but 6k for the short block of the built 6.0 i want just dont sit well with her

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

That's not a bad plan, actually. Probably what I would have done too. However, $36??? I've never seen a set of 8 for that cheap. Are you sure you're getting either Ford or Alliant o-rings? Some don't like Alliant, but I haven't had a problem with em. Also, make sure you're getting the full kit with the copper washer. I've seen just the soft part kits sold for that cheap, but since you can't reuse the copper washers, it's more like shooting yourself in the foot. lol

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

That's only for 6 due to 2 injectors being new, but now that you mention that copper not being re usable I'll have to get all 8 and they are $4 a set from Ford, it's a complete kit as well
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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

If you are going to be conservative in one decision (which is wise IMO), then be consistent with all of them (ie seals). I don't think For's kit includes the top o-ring where the oil rail inserts.

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

@bismic1, thanks for the heads up! i might as well replace all O-rings since they will be out... i do not know if ford's kit includes them or not. ill have to take a look at it when i get my hands on them. i know from the pic i saw, they had the white the blue the black, and the copper washer. is there any others besides the top smaller O-ring?

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

Alliant Power is the only supplier that includes the o-ring and c-clip for injector where the oil rail tube.

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White - lower o-ring on the body
Black - upper o-ring on the body
Blue - rocker box 0-ring for the connector
small o-ring and c-clip - HPO rail oil supply
copper washer - seal at injector tip

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Alliant Power is the only supplier that includes the o-ring and c-clip for injector where the oil rail tube.

Good video

Ford Powerstroke 6.0L Injector Seal Replacement and Sna - YouTube

White - lower o-ring on the body
Black - upper o-ring on the body
Blue - rocker box 0-ring for the connector
small o-ring and c-clip - HPO rail oil supply
copper washer - seal at injector tip
Ok so question, is this kit including OEM gaskets? I ask due to seeing claims that they are in these kits from Alliant and vendors selling them, but clams are as good as billy at orilleys auto talking about all his performance work on his car....

Hate to sound like an arse asking but I hate rework and I hate that I am about to battle getting valve covers back off not to mention China garbage really does not agree with these motors, nor do I like spending money on garbage..... if anyone has thoughts on these kits, your two cents on this would be much apricated!

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

I've used the Alliant kits on several trucks with no problems. Some don't like em, but they're not a no-name brand.

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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

Ok, thank you Wearherlite! I think I am just going to let the truck sit for now and save up for all new injectors.... I have already been putting money aside for them due to them having 190k on them.... I just don't see the benefit of rebuilding them, and then go another period of time before more of them fail.... hate driving the car that I am now, but hell in another few weeks I'll be able to get the Swamp's Injecotrs I want
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Re: White Smoke, No Power.

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I have to laugh a little .... one of the most common posts over all the 10+ 6.0L forums is "I have (white, black, blue, gray, bluish-white, etc) smoke. What is wrong?".
I would often hear that black smoke is the most common. That was not my experience at all. I found white smoke to be the most common, by far actually. Especially on the 6.0 powerstroke.

Also found rear mains to be very common, despite hearing constantly that they don't go bad on the 6.0. They do. I must have done at least ten just in the year or so that I worked strictly on diesels.

The internet is what it is, take what ya read with a grain of salt. I'm convinced a lot of the mystique and reguritated facts of this engine came from diesel Ron, though I can't prove that, its just a hunch. Ron was a good man who helped a lot of people, including myself at least once that I can remember. But I think what he often stated as opinion was taken as fact. One can do worse than to follow his advice though.

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