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Wheel hub assembly/Ball Joints/Pittman arm

Time to replace the front hub bearing assembly and upper and lower ball joints on both front sides, as well as my pittman arm.
I currently have a 6" procomp leaf spring lift.
The truck is a 2004 6.0L.

A shop quoted me $1300 after tax ($900 parts/$360 labor/$50 alignment).
Unfortunately, I have a few more things that need to be done to the truck and can't spend that much.
I feel like they're overcharging on the parts..
Would these parts work for the truck?
I don't need the best of the best. If they last 5k less than the top brand I don't mind them.

Wheel bearing assembly:
2004 Ford F250 Super Duty Truck 4WD Front Wheel Bearing Hub Assembly for Models with 4 Wheel ABS at 1A Auto.com


Ball joints:
XRF Ford F250 F350 Super Duty Upper Lower Ball Joint 1999 2006 | eBay

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2004 Ford F250 Super Duty Truck 4WD Front Upper Lower Ball Joint (Set of 4) at 1A Auto.com

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Ford F250 F350 F450 F550 Excursion 4WD/4X4 Upper & Lower Ball Joint Set (L&R)

Pittman arm:
FA499 Skyjacker - Pitman Arm At StylinTrucks.com

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Re: Wheel hub assembly/Ball Joints/Pittman arm

1A is a good seller but I wouldn't use cheap unit bearings on a truck I was keeping I would get the Timken brand they sell with the lifetime warranty

that shop looks like it priced non Timken as well

i use OEM balljointsso I have no input on the selections you made but you will likely need some seal kits also don't forget and some seal driving tools if you DIY

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Re: Wheel hub assembly/Ball Joints/Pittman arm

I hate to burst bubbles, but there would be no way i would ever put a 100$ hub unit in these trucks. No offense to 1A auto, but the quality is just not there. An OE or timken unit is 3-4 times that (and for a reason).

For ball joints, i would just use the MOOG's and be done with it. They should last the life of the truck when greased regularly. The greasing is very important!

If you're going to do this yourself, know that there are some special tools involved. One being the axle seal/axle installation tool (installs new knuckle seal onto axle, and installs axle at correct depth into knuckle) as well as a ball joint press and assortment of press cups/adapters.

That is a fair price the shop gave you. The ball joints pay 5 hours and the labor is overlapping for the hub unit. My shop is 100$/hr so thats 500 in labor alone. I would just question the hub unit quality in the hub the shop quoted you. What brand ball joints did they quote you?

Whats wrong with the pitman arm? They are not a normal wear item as they have no moving parts.

edit: damnit zmann you beat me to it
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edit: damnit zmann you beat me to it
I was like didn't I just mention some of this

but you did elaborate ( very well I might add )
and I didn't question the Pitman arm but I had the same question in my mind

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Re: Wheel hub assembly/Ball Joints/Pittman arm

Is this the correct timken wheel bearing assembly?



You think they're just trying to stiff me on the Pittman arm?

Also, what about those xrf ball joints I listed? I've read good things about xrf ones.

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If that is indeed a genuine timken bearing, then that is a good deal. XRF are good but the MOOGs are much more accesable(parts stores, etc) for warranty purposes should the need arise.

You'll also need new dust seals for the axles and the knuckle seals too. The nice thing about the OE bearing is that it comes with new studs for the bearing. You'll need to remove the old studs from the old bearing and transfer them over. If they are all rusty it sucks to re use them.

I'd simply ask the shop whats wrong with the pitman arm. There are no joints to wear out. Unless its bent or something. Steering wheel would be a mile off center if that was the case though.

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i am worried about that listing I had asked Timken about this directly and they said it wasn't true

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Note: Timken partners with other manufacturers to supply their complete line of quality parts. This product is in a Timken package, however the part may have been manufactured by an independent Timken supplier.
they also said counterfeit is an issue and to stick with an authorized reseller but they don't make that list public

just inspect the part if you get it there also check 1A they sell timken and upgrade the warranty to life on some (maybe all i don't know)

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If that is indeed a genuine timken bearing, then that is a good deal. XRF are good but the MOOGs are much more accesable(parts stores, etc) for warranty purposes should the need arise.

You'll also need new dust seals for the axles and the knuckle seals too. The nice thing about the OE bearing is that it comes with new studs for the bearing. You'll need to remove the old studs from the old bearing and transfer them over. If they are all rusty it sucks to re use them.

I'd simply ask the shop whats wrong with the pitman arm. There are no joints to wear out. Unless its bent or something. Steering wheel would be a mile off center if that was the case though.
Could you possibly link me to a place where I could buy the dust seals and knuckle seals? I'm having trouble finding them. Thanks!

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ask for a price from Sunrise ford Fontana they are on this site and will get you the right parts cheaper than most any other dealer

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Re: Wheel hub assembly/Ball Joints/Pittman arm

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Could you possibly link me to a place where I could buy the dust seals and knuckle seals? I'm having trouble finding them. Thanks!
They're about $30, Sunrise has them as does every other dealer... Just not with the nifty discount we get here from Sunrise.
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