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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-16-2014, 01:59 AM Thread Starter
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Hard truth about the 6.0???

Hey guys, lookin for a 4 door to replace my ext cab, and I've found a LOT if beautiful trucks running the 6.0
I've also heard bad bad things since these came around.
I've never personally drivin or known someone that owned one, so I don't know what the truth is.
So should I be reluctant to get one? Most of the ones I've seen have over 100k.

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Re: Hard truth about the 6.0???

I was never a fan of the 6.0, but when I was looking for a crew cab ford I came across a killer deal. I looked it over with a fine tooth comb, all seemed well but I knew I was going to break something because I'm hard on trucks anyhow. I did the research and started to save my money to replace all the known weak points. While I was saving I blew a head gasket which forced me to make the repairs sooner then expected but I knew it was coming. Now that I have all the weak point fixed and am running custom tunes this truck is bad ass and I'm glad I made to purchase even being a 6.0L I say if you come by a killer deal then take it but plan on fixing the weak points either before or after they fail.

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The bad news... Yes 6.0's have weak points. All vehicles have a weak spot or two...these have several, and can't cost a small fortune in repair bills...especially if you are the type to take it to a shop for everything. Parts are expensive, labor rates are outrageous.

Now, the good...every known issue with these trucks is 100% fixable. The aftermarket stepped up big time offering every updated/better part available that you can think of. With a little bit of work and money, a 6.0 can be made as reliable as any other vehicle out there...if not even more so. Key thing to remember is routine maintenance is KEY with a 6.0. They can be bought for cheap in most cases because most people think they aren't worth anything. I'm on my second 6.0, and if I needed to buy another truck for whatever reason, I can say with 100% certainty that I'd buy another 6.0. I've had no major issues with either truck, but I know the inevitable is bound to happen eventually. When it does, I'll fix it and keep on driving. If you are mechanically inclined and work on your own stuff, you'll save yourself thousands in labor fees.

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Re: Hard truth about the 6.0???

Thank y'all off the input. This is very helpful!

Well I feel a little better about my available selections now, and I agree that there are some deals out there because of this engine.
I'm a 7.3 guy, and had always heard to beware, but this makes a lot of sense now. I am a decent mechanic, and believe I could handle anything it could require.
I may just hunt for that truck, even with the 6.0, and I'll keep in mind the cost that I might assume by whipping it into shape after I buy it...

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You will always hear more complaints than praise. I absolutely love my 6.0. They have more power and get better fuel mileage than the 7.3.
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The bad news... Yes 6.0's have weak points. All vehicles have a weak spot or two...these have several, and can't cost a small fortune in repair bills...especially if you are the type to take it to a shop for everything. Parts are expensive, labor rates are outrageous.

Now, the good...every known issue with these trucks is 100% fixable. The aftermarket stepped up big time offering every updated/better part available that you can think of. With a little bit of work and money, a 6.0 can be made as reliable as any other vehicle out there...if not even more so. Key thing to remember is routine maintenance is KEY with a 6.0. They can be bought for cheap in most cases because most people think they aren't worth anything. I'm on my second 6.0, and if I needed to buy another truck for whatever reason, I can say with 100% certainty that I'd buy another 6.0. I've had no major issues with either truck, but I know the inevitable is bound to happen eventually. When it does, I'll fix it and keep on driving. If you are mechanically inclined and work on your own stuff, you'll save yourself thousands in labor fees.
^ That is extremely well stated.

I absolutely love my truck. It's a bad*** engine, makes tons of power (I'm always amazed at how quickly is can move a 3.5 ton empty truck), and the sound is unreal.

Maintenance is key. Oil every 5k. Fuel filters every 10k. Coolant is unbelievably important. If I were to get another 6.0 (and the oil cooler wasn't already 100% clogged...) I would flush, flush, and flush (including backflushes through the oil cooler and heater core) with running water until you could drink the water draining out. I would then flush with Restore. I would then flush, flush, flush again. Then flush with Restore Plus. I would flush, flush, flush, then flush again with distilled water. Finally, I would fill with an extended life HD Cat EC-1 approved silicate free coolant. Oh, I'd add a coolant filter before the final fill. (< I will be doing all this to my truck this spring once it's running again)

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Love my two 6.0L I have the 03 in my signature that I've done everything to and an 05 bone stock with 300000 miles on it. The only issues I've had with my 05 is the FICM went bad and I had to put a set of injectors in it. If you are a mechanic or mechanically inclined you can do all the fix its for around $5000 in parts. I'd buy another 6.0 in a second without a second thought and because most people are so afraid of them you can usually get a great deal on a 6.0

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Re: Hard truth about the 6.0???

They went thru stages just like the 6.4 did. The first ones (03.5-04) had a laundry list of failures... As the years went on they improved on it and ironed these failures out but the problems remain. Head bolts/gaskets most of all, and there's nothing you can really do to improve it because you simply can't put more bolts in the block to make up for the lack therein. As batteries get old and the alternator(s) lose oomph, the FICM takes a beating from low voltage issues. The PCM had issues as well. I think a lot of bad rap comes as a result of *under* driving these motors tho. People who drive a diesel like a gasser - fire it up to pick up Timmy at school and bring him home - lend cause to many of these horror stories. Oh, don't forget to give it a revving before you shut the ignition off too. If you find a deal on one that's still running and running strong, chances are it was well maintained and it's gonna keep running that way as long as you keep it's blood clean and keep running it like it wants to be run. Hard and at operating temp for a lot longer than 15 minutes.
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Re: Hard truth about the 6.0???

This is great information. I'm in the market for a diesel too and find a lot of 6.0's for a decent price.
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Love drivin it!! Hate fixin it!! labour intensive and complicated!!!

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