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The crush washers are thin and one of them is probably stuck to the old pump. Or one or both of them fell into the valley of death.
 
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And you won't be able to get the tappet out the drain plug hole, the oil pickup tube is right above it. I have a nut in my oil pan, and it's not going anywhere until I pull the motor to put a new pan on. :doh:

Dave
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I have a ball from one of the rocker assemblys in mine that I dropped when I pulled a rocker assembly to check it. It is in the bottom of the pan it will not come past the oil pump pick up.
 
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great, so should i not worry about it? im thinking of cutting off a corner of the pan and grabbing it out there, then welding it back up. the only concern i have is that when i cut the pan open with a cutoff wheel, im gonna get that steel dust all over the inside of the motor, which would pose even a bigger problem. \\
i've thought of the possability of putting a vacum up against the drain plug hole while i cut, maybe a magnet carefully placed, but in the end it might do more harm then just letting that tappet sit on the bottom.

i just dont want to grenade my motor haha. what do you guys think, am i stressing out on this too much?
 
the residual oil in the pan will hold the metal shavings and the vacumn won't help at all, then when oil is put back in it'll pick up the shavngs, don't do it. base on all the others here, don't worry about it.
 
:whs: it is definitely not going anywhere. You're not the first that has done that. Suspecting the 'clown-ige' that was around my motor with the previous owner, I could have all kinds of stuff down there and don't know it. LOL
 
You could always try to remove it through the dipstick hole which should be large enough. The hard part would be in retaining the "internal" dipstick seal and adapter so you can reinstall the dipstick tube. Cheers!
 
see now dont you feel better its out, i know i do and its not even my truck!
 
Don't worry another minute if you heard it drop in the pan, worry if you didn't hear hit the pan bottom. Mine has had a pump tappet in the pan for 6 or 7 years, I pulled the pump up to change it without putting the cam lobe to the top (pushes out the pump and stops the tappet from dropping in):pointlaugh:: and the pump body broke off, I pulled out the broken pump body with the tappet still in it and at the last second, bye bye tappet:doh:. Right after the tappet fell in I heard it hit the bottom of the pan,:rockon: near where I figure it must have been I put a magnet to keep it there and have never given another second of concern. :ford:
 
So what is the proper process to remove the pump with out the tapped hitting bottom. I am a cat marine tech there are engines out there with a couple 5/8 1/2drive sockets along with 3inch extension in the pans damn cam gear bolts.
 
Take all the fuel lines off, remove the 2 hold down bolts, and bump the engine over with the starter. It will pop the pump loose and push it up. Then all you'll have to do is gently slide the pump out.

The tappet doesn't pull out of the pump easy, it's not like you breath on it and it falls out, lol.

Dave
 
Don't bump over with starter, put a braker bar on the alternator pulley bolt and turn it BACKWARDS when you turn it backwards the belt grips better, a friend told me about that and it works great, how I got mine out popes right out of the hole.
 
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