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Old 02-11-2011, 10:43 PM
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Oil Filter Size

Hi,

Finally decided to put a bypass style oil filtration on my PS. Looking through the options the way I am going is Cummins Filtration (FleetGuard) Venturi spin on filter. They have the bypass and full flow elements in one. Oil filtration system that doesn't need external lines or additional filter mounting. The one for the 7.3 is LF9027. Now there is another p/n for a CAT application that fits but is 3 inches longer than a stock filter. Does anyone think this would hang down too far on a 2WD F350? I would prefer to run the larger filter. It is p/n LF9691. Any thoughts on the clearance issue? Any one have pics of the oil filter location under their truck? Mine is 90 miles away in storage for the winter...

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Old 02-11-2011, 10:45 PM
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Re: Oil Filter Size

whats the part number i am running the cummins bypass too
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:56 PM
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Re: Oil Filter Size

LF9027 is the FleetGuard part number for the 7.3 filter. LF9691 is the number for the longer CAT.
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Hey Cory,
I am running the Cat version LF9691 and shouldn't be a concern for you. Have not done any oil analysis but sotp it runs smoother at and beyond interval change compared to the stock fleetgard.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:21 AM
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Re: Oil Filter Size

JCart,

Thanks much for the reply. I figured since all my air and fuel filtration is upto spec I should see what I can do for my oil system and this seemed like a no brainer but the extra length concerned me from a ground clearance perspectivem. Beside just found out today I can't get my hands on the 9027 for a while...

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Old 02-12-2011, 04:21 AM
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I had to order a case of 6 from IH and it took 6 months to get them not sure why they are running a short supply perhaps tight inventories because of global down turn? iirc the filter FL9691 is 1/2" wider then stocker and fits even or slightly below the oil pan on my sig truck. Can take a pix if you want just give a shout.

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Old 02-12-2011, 12:36 PM
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you got a pic of it on your truck?
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:05 PM
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Will try and put one up tonight
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JCart,

You can get them through Cummins distributor or dealer a piece at a time. With my employee discount through Cummins I can get them but I still don't want to pay for case! Lol. Are you running an extended drain interval? I always change around 3000 to 4000 miles. It will make the changes more expensive but I feel it will be worth it.

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has anyone tried the napa/wix version of these filters? there is a 1792XE and 1792XD. the XD is the equivalent of the LF9691 with a built in by pass filter. the XE is a full flow filter but with a 5 micron rating.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:14 PM
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LF9691 has the bypass built in as well. There are few actual manufacturers of filters and stores like NAPA simply contract with them to brand their own line to carry. Fleetguard, Wix, and Donaldson are a few of the actual Manufacturers. I haven't looked at the other filter you listed but I would think it was also a bypas style in order to get to 5 micron level without causing excessive restriction in the oiling system.

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Hey Cory & Jcart
Do you know anything about this filter? It got posted in another thread, not sure if its a bypass filter or not?
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Hey Cory & Jcart
Do you know anything about this filter? It got posted in another thread, not sure if its a bypass filter or not?
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um yes please...... please tell me this will just spin right on in place of the stock filter. not to redirect but what is the motorcraft filter mic rating?
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um yes please...... please tell me this will just spin right on in place of the stock filter. not to redirect but what is the motorcraft filter mic rating?
Not sure on the ford, i heard 15 or 20 micron mabye? But yes it spins right up in factory location.
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:17 PM
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I just want to know if its a bypass filter like the one Jcart listed earlier in the thread. That would just make more options for those of us who want to do that.
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Hey Cory,
I am running the Cat version LF9691 and shouldn't be a concern for you. Have not done any oil analysis but sotp it runs smoother at and beyond interval change compared to the stock fleetgard.
Any idea what Cat OEM filter that LF9691 filter for the Cat motor crosses to or what Cat motor it comes off??

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Re: Oil Filter Size

All,

The Donadlson ELF7405 is a FleetGuard LF9691 and a Wix 51792XD. They are all the same filter. They are all BYPASS style filters. They will ALL FIT in place of a stock filter.

I don't know what CAT engine(s) these specifically fit. Either way these will directly spin on a 7.3L without any modification or issue. They are about 3.2 inches longer than a stock filter.

For a stock length BYPASS filter use LF9027. I hope this helps.

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They fit a lot of cat engines, 3406, C15, C12 and the list goes on.
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Are you running an extended drain interval? I always change around 3000 to 4000 miles. It will make the changes more expensive but I feel it will be worth it.

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Tried to get them through a Cummins dealer no luck at the time because of lengthy back order. Then Cornbinder just phoned one day....had actually given up on them...

Yes the intent is to run extended drains and am going to switch to Mobil one full synthetic. Moreover (slowly) doing research on a by pass ZGuard filter, which is a remote by pass that has Zinc plates in it which is supposed to attract and collect soot. The ZGuard is designed for Over the Road big rig engines. I usually change out my oil at 3000 miles with Delo Dino oil and truck usually starts to run rough at 3000 miles (idle). Have noticed now with twice the mileage still smooth. The thing is the ZGuard is a huge spin on and am trying to figure a horizontal mount for it inside the frame rails...still chewing on the mounting location.
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Re: Oil Filter Size

Well since this is a filter size thread, heres a pic of the oil filter i posted in another thread that Krause was talking about. and of it installed, its a donaldson elf7405 i just found out about after i just changed my oil. oh and yea its a bypass filter and filters down to 15 microns. heres a link to the pix of it compared to a wix http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/me...il+filter.html
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They fit a lot of cat engines, 3406, C15, C12 and the list goes on.



Ok, so I'm wondering what CAT oil filters for those series motors.... would like to run CAT filter if I could make it work..

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All,

The Donadlson ELF7405 is a FleetGuard LF9691 and a Wix 51792XD. They are all the same filter. They are all BYPASS style filters. They will ALL FIT in place of a stock filter.

I don't know what CAT engine(s) these specifically fit. Either way these will directly spin on a 7.3L without any modification or issue. They are about 3.2 inches longer than a stock filter.

For a stock length BYPASS filter use LF9027. I hope this helps.

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