ha come on yall think about it optimistically ... could it work? and would it help? im sure it would have to be cleaned religiously but is i possible to gain any power from it?
Actually the squires system works pretty well ! Have seen applications that REALLY help.... the turbo lag you would think you would have is almost non-existent ....
If u are thinking of adding one to a turbo'ed dezzle to 'double up' hmmm......
dunno what it would take to modify since they typically include new fuel systems ie. injectors, etc and tuning for a particular engine.vehicle.... spoke to the squires guys to see about doing something with the wife's nice lincoln ls that is an underpowered v8.... they were very helpful but at the time were focusing on the chevy side of it....
yeah i wasnt plannin on usin their system i was kinda thinkin about tryin my own deal if noone knew anything about it just to see.. i finally got some play money in the bank and was interested in trying to look into this to see if it would be worth it
I see where you're going. Pulling through the big turbo with the stock one would be the hardest part to get right... You have to run a pipe all the way from there, over your engine, down under, and then to the big turbo... That's if you go without intercooling that stage. You'd probably have to have water or something... And you still have the oiling issue, and trying to keep the water off of your exhaust side... Seems like if you hit enough. it's crack it pretty quickly...
I ran a 04 GTO 5.7 with a rear-mount turbo. Piping was a little odd but not that bad. I expected lag to be horrible, but it was actually quite good. It put down 530 RWHP @ 6PSI. Then the intake manifold gasket blew.
I don't think piping would be too bad on a 6.0, just use the existing exhaust and run a intake pipe back up front...
That's why I said "just the rear mount". If you use the stock spot as the small turbo, then the rear-mount as the bigger, you just need to find a place for the intake to run up the the I/C. I guess reverse-flow could still work with this setup (if it is easier). The rear turbo doesn't need to be at the back of the truck, does it? Couldn't it just be at the end of the DP or something?
yeah i dont think itwould be neccesary to be way the hell in the back but what if i reversed it and used the stock spot for the bigger turbo what would that do?
If you used the stock spot for the bigger, then leave the flow like it is. The reason I mentioned reversing it is because it seemed easier to run the intake below the motor to the I/C, rather than trying to get up past everything. Just trying to throw some ideas put there.
You just might take into account that, unlike a lot of the gassers that have been mentioned, our 6.0's don't have the best flowing heads. I would be concerned that by the time you pushed through the lengths of the pipes required for that set up, you would have lost too much of the heat and exhaust pulse/energy and have spooling issues.
The oiling would also take some planning out, as the oil drain for our turbo's is just a gravity drain back into the valve cover. The only option I could think of for the distances required of this setup, would be a scavenging pump to push the oil back to the engine. I'm sure the gassers already dealt with this issue, and there are pumps available. You would just have to do a little homework as far as the pumps go because it seems if the pump would need to have a fairly specific volume/pressure rating to avoid pulling a vacuum at the oil drain. I don't know if that would be a problem or not, but it's not normal for our gravity drain applications, so I would want to look into it.
Anyway, just issues that cross my mind that I'm throwing out to consider.
You just might take into account that, unlike a lot of the gassers that have been mentioned, our 6.0's don't have the best flowing heads. I would be concerned that by the time you pushed through the lengths of the pipes required for that set up, you would have lost too much of the heat and exhaust pulse/energy and have spooling issues.
The oiling would also take some planning out, as the oil drain for our turbo's is just a gravity drain back into the valve cover. The only option I could think of for the distances required of this setup, would be a scavenging pump to push the oil back to the engine. I'm sure the gassers already dealt with this issue, and there are pumps available. You would just have to do a little homework as far as the pumps go because it seems if the pump would need to have a fairly specific volume/pressure rating to avoid pulling a vacuum at the oil drain. I don't know if that would be a problem or not, but it's not normal for our gravity drain applications, so I would want to look into it.
Anyway, just issues that cross my mind that I'm throwing out to consider.
I always wondered how they got those kits to work, they certainly seem to work good but seemed to be against all logic when it comes to turbos (not that I know much) but basically the hottest fastest flowing air is gonna be the best and these remote kits seem to avoid that all together.
Stock cat location would probably be a nice spot to put the second turbo but then getting the charge air back up to the motor could be tricky.Maybe some passenger side inner fenderwell mods or some firewall mods maybe.
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