My local dealership has just confirmed that the EBPV on my stock 2000 F250 with 96K miles is stuck closed. I have been experiencing a general loss of power which is especially noticeable when going up hills and while towing. The truck starts fine, idles fine, does not blow smoke and there are no check engine lights on. Of course the dealer wants to replace the turbo, etc at a cost of $2,000.00+. So now I have a few questions:
1. Do I really need the EBPV, or can I just gut it? I live in CT and drive the truck every day in the winter.
2. Am I correct in assuming that since the EBPV is stuck closed, that disconnecting the wiring to it will not cause it to open?
3. Is it possible to free up the butterfly and wire it open without removing it from the truck?
4. If I have to remove the turbo to get at the EBPV, does it make sense to rebuild the turbo at 96K miles?
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
1. LOTS of people gut theirs.
2.Disconnecting the wire might open it, but might not since its "stuck" closed.
3.You can disconnect the butterfly and keep it stuck open, get a piece of wire or something and just tie it open.
4.As far as the rebuild, its cheap so you could do it for peace of mind, or just check the turbo out and if everything looks good just keep running it.
As far as advice, right now i would just disconnect the butterfly and tie it open. I dont know what its like where you live, but im gutting mine... .02
Nope! If your in front of the truck looking at it, on the left side of the turbo pedastool there is a rod sticking out, its kinda flat with a lip, push the lip over (it unlocks) i think twords the turbo pedastool. You will see at the end of it the linkage going through that operates the butterfly. After you slide the lock over you can push that the rod down off of the butterfly linkage, then just pull the linkage open and find a way to keep it tied open. Should leave the truck drivable till you figure out how you want to handle it.
Thanks for the help! I will try to temporarily wire the the valve open until I have more time to deal with it. Incidentally, when I'm told that the valve is stuck closed, is it the actual "butterfly" that is sticking or the actuator under the pedestal?
It could be the butterfly valve that is stuck or gummed up by carbon deposits, but you will be able to open it using a channel locks or pliers if needed. Most likely it is the spring in the housing that returns the actuator to open that is the problem.
Don't know where you live, but in warmer climates the EBPV is not really needed. I have had my truck in the Sierra Nevada in -5* temps and have not had a problem. If you deal with cold northern climates during the winter you might want to rebuild it.
That depends on what type of terrain and towing you do. I have a decell program in my DPTuner that uses the ebpv as an exhaust brake. I think the guy is in Ct if so he'll need it in the winter for warmup I would think. Just my $.02
IIRC a new EBPV was a few hundred dollars, the high side of 300. You will pay way too much for a new EBPV and a used one should be rebuilt since it will most likely have a lot of mileage. You should be able to find a rebuild kit on Ebay. Below are the part numbers for the rebuild kits from Ford and International for your truck. This kit has the improved seals. There was a TSB on this issue a while back and resulted in the improved seal kit.
Ford # ------------- Description --- IH part #
2C3Z 9P466 BB - KIT TRBCH SE - 1833816C93
I'm experiencing the same issue and very low boost right now and a slight whistling from the tail pipe and have been told that its probably my ebpv stuck halfway closed. I'm getting no smoke no missing and no cel's. Gutting it is to much of a hassle for me at the moment so I think I'm going to unplug mine and wire it open if I can. Judging from what I read on the 1st page it doesn't look very hard.
I've started my truck up in -30 degrees here in wyoming with mine disconnected and haven't had a problem. Just give it a little extra time to warm up. It will still idle up.
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It will still idle up and wamr up just fine.
I havent seen an upgraded turbo that even has the EBPV in it. So anyone running an upgraded turbo has already deleted theirs. Havent ever heard of any problems with NOT having one either. Just unhook the rod , wire it open, and rock on. Very easy job, as long as you do it when the truck is dead cold!! lol Dont come in from even a short drive and try to work on it!!
2002 7.3 168,000 miles, Turbo shaft is tight, no slop, using about 1 qt oil 400 miles, power is good, no leaks, EBPV maybe ???
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