Well i spit the head gaskets out,thing is it only on the hot setting but lowest tune.now my question is dealer is gonna warranty it but said i needed to do headstuds,anybody know the cheapest place to get a set of studs,and is arp my best choice?also is there anything else i should do while the cab is off.keep in mknd its at the steelership lol.i know the tech so he will hook it up but not anything to crazy!
I can get ARP's.. lemme check if i have some.. and what my prices are. also i would do an EGR delete, wastegate, and downpipe while youre there. CAC and elbow are great, but can be done cab on if you dont wanna load down your tech
Sorry to hear that. It seems there are more an more people blowing there HGs. Do you drive hard sometimes? What do you mean hot setting but lowest tune?
Find ARP's and tip your mechanic since He has to inspect the heads visually ,, you don't want him to miss anything
I had to pay extra for the stud install since it takes a little longer and I went with the bullet proof EGR cooler as thats all the dealer can install under LAW
im sorry guys but everywhere might "say" they have them... but call them, ARP has been on national backorder for a while.. i just htought it would be fixed by now. only a few shops truly have them. i mean heck our site has them listed
You know what happens when u assume things right?
Sorry that was so brutal for u to read(typing from my phone)
Thanks for the imput from those who acualy gave me imput!
Sorry ronin..your post was a waste of both our time...i came to this wonderful site to gain knowledge.not to be policed on grammar and morals!
You know what happens when u assume things right?
Sorry that was so brutal for u to read(typing from my phone)
Thanks for the imput from those who acualy gave me imput!
Sorry ronin..your post was a waste of both our time...i came to this wonderful site to gain knowledge.not to be policed on grammar and morals!
Wow, that post was just as bad to read, good thing you can blame your phone, although you might want to update its spell checker...
So answer the question, they know it's tuned then, right?
And as far as your morals go, (or don't go), karma has a way of catching up, it's just too bad that dealers sometimes hassle people with legitimate problems because Ford is hammering on them for warrantying stuff they shouldn't.
There's no such thing as a mod friendly dealer. Is there any question that tuning your truck resulted in the blown headgaskets? (No need to answer that question; it's rhetorical...)
That really goes for anyone; returning your truck to stock and throwing the DPF back on after you blow the headgaskets from almost doubling the stock power output isn't slick...it's fraud.
But there's an easy way around it; If you can't afford to pay, then you can't afford to play.
Im with you man! My dealer is " mod friendly"! My service manager told me that he understood and ford should understand also, that a man that pays 50000 for a truck should be able to get atleast decent mpg!
Nothing wrong with having your dealership do the work for you, I NEVER said that. When I did the build on my 6.0 Excursion they're the ones that did it (Elite turbo, H11 headstuds, etc.). Most dealers are typically more than happy to charge you the non-warranty rate especially for something cab-off that's gonna make them a pretty penny. My good friend was the master diesel tech at the dealership at the time and I was quite comfortable with him working on it and having his lift/bay occupied and getting paid. Most dealers will say they'll warranty the install, and not the (aftermarket) parts...that's fair.
The issue here is blown headgaskets. Is there any question that the OP's tuning caused the issue? He states they're fixing it under warranty, but gets all cagey and still hasn't answered the question about whether or not they know it's tuned...
A dealer is mod-friendly but doesn't warranty stuff...that's a pretty oxymoronic statement. "Mod-friendly" means they'll fix whatever is broken, regardless of the presence of aftermarket parts which may have caused it. Ford dealers aren't supposed to do it. Do they? Some do, but if they get caught by Ford corporate they're in HUGE trouble. Most dealers don't feel it's worth the trouble, and you can't blame them. If you're going to effectively double the stock output of your motor, you should have your big boy pants on and be ready to pay for anything that fails as a direct result of that (like headgaskets for instance) out of your own pocket, not Ford's.
And if you don't think that all the warranty issues (blown headgaskets among the most prolific) with the 6.0 and the fraud on both sides of the fence have made things exponentially worse for the consumer since then, you're delusional...
How many bone-stock 6.4s have blown their headgaskets? I can't recall seeing or hearing about a single one.
As far as the "Mod friendly" title goes, for me, I would have inferred it to mean that the dealer will do work. Everyone has their own definition of what it means to them. Some dealers will refuse ALL work, warranty or out of pocket if it has an aftermarket air filter. Any tuner at all, they denied everything, clutch throwout fork, radio, windows, it didn't matter.
Anyone remember the BS that the 1st gen-99.5 7.3 had when the factory air box was dusting motors and ford was denying the warranty based on K&N or similar air filters, even though Ford used the K&N on certain factory mustangs.
I'd consider my local dealer mod friendly even though I know he won't warrany HG failures when tuned.
I do know a dealer that gave a guy 2 trans in his stang even though he was running nitrous. On his 3rd they said we just can't do it anymore, they agreed that the 1st and maybe the 2nd may have been covered but they did deny the 3rd, all everyone knew along, nothing was hidden from what I was lead to believe, from the tech.
I see what you're getting at but playing devils advocate and lets say he only runs a tow tune to pull his 12500K fifth wheel. An extra 50 or so HP shouldnt blow HG but unusual things happen, should he be denied based upon a fluke? When the PCM is read, a multitude of parimeters are read and I think that would be a more accurate way to determine if a warranty claim is valid or not.
My local dealer sells "speed" parts (SCTs, other non-FMS aftermarket products) right next to the service desk...and I've joked with them about how they help their customers void their warranty so they can charge them a higher shop rate! Warranty doesn't pay well at all, which is the reason why (1) dealers will void warranties for aftermarket products (tuners specifically) to begin with and (2) they're more than happy to install those items at a higher shop rate, and take they're time while they're doing it. Dealers who won't install customer provided product are getting fewer and farther between, and for good reason, it doesn't make good business sense to turn that money away...
I was just working on my truck today and saw the sticker on the radiator support about installing aftermarket non-CARB/EPA products and in the situation you gave, yeah, the warranty's no good. Remember the innumerable amount of people having their headgaskets let go in the 6.0s, a good number of them were bone stock. Not too many people got far with tuned trucks using the excuse that they were going to let go anyway, and Ford was looking for ANYTHING to get out of paying for those jobs. I recall one gentleman that had a turbo timer installed and had to fight tooth and nail to get his done as the rest of his truck was relatively stock (NO tune) and the dealership thought that it must have done something bad to the motor...somehow...!
Once you overwrite the factory programming, you own it. If there's an inherent weakness (like the 6.0) and something happens, then you own that too.
Put yourself in the position of the vast majority of owners of these trucks that don't mod their trucks at all. How would you like to pay (through increased truck, warranty, and service related costs) more because clowns on both sides of the service desk are warrantying stuff they shouldn't? Those two trannys that got thrown in that NOS'd Mustang weren't "free".
Personal accountability. It is a rapidly vanishing personality trait these days unfortunately...
What buisness is it of yours what MY Dealer and i have discussed?and why do you feel the need to troll my thread acting like you are superior.i asked a simple question,you shouldn't answer a question with a question!stop being a jerk dude....
I'm not trolling your thread, nor acting like I'm superior, so sorry if you feel insecure or "in"-superior after reading my posts.
You're the one that posted asking a question, and likewise asking if your dealer knows about your truck being tuned is a legit question, you're being butthurt and STILL not answering it says plenty.
If your dealer is fixing your tuned mess in violation of Ford corporate warranty policy, then good on them and good on you too, just don't be an idiot as another member just posted and out them in a public forum and get them in trouble for doing you a favor...
But since you still haven't answered the question about whether they know it's tuned or not...so if they don't and you're scamming them, that doesn't make me a troll, it's makes you a dishonest douchenozzle...
It's a simple question, so answer it or don't...either way your responses are amusing...
i am a consumer just like you,no?i asked a question dude.and you respond with a question haha..i am not screwing over anybody..i took my truck to the dealer,they called and said it needed head gaskets,and that it was under warranty.end of story.i hope that answers your question.and thanks for letting me play at YOUR expense..and by the way jdfhiwjqf,,q3wurtp . qw3jrjw jhhfut uquut4ut 45y5 u
So answer the question then, do they know it's tuned?
If they don't, you're committing warranty fraud...but if they figure it out and ask about it, play stupid, it seems to work for you.
If they do and they fix it under warranty, they're committing warranty fraud. Good for them AND you...and hope Ford corporate doesn't figure it out 'cause they'll be coming after you right after they're through with the dealer.
Simple, isn't it?
It would seem that personal responsibility and accountability is a character trait that you do not possess. Shocking...
ronin you are the man!you win!now go away!o and yes if the trans "sh#ts the bed",where can i send the bill?i would love for you to help me out as i am to poor to drive a diesel lol.
That's obvious from your posting history, you beat the crap outta your truck and then want us to pay for it.
I gonna take a stab and guess you're in your 20s? The bitchin' user name helps... ointlaugh: That whole sense of entitlement is prolific with people that age. Someone else has to get their wallet out to clean up your mess.
...and for the record its my truck so i will drive it like a dick head or however the #### i want!mods please lock this thread its always a troll who ruins it.thanks bud
Sure, you can drive it like a dick head as long as you're gonna man up and take out your wallet when you break something. If you wanna play you need to play. You're the moron that street raced some ricer and broke his truck and now you want us to pay for it.
What's your next thread going to be, how you got your transmission warrantied too?
You're a loser, straight up. Drive something you can afford, 'cause it sure sounds like you can't come up with the money for a cab-off job, otherwise you would like the vast majority of people here have. In your case I'd recommend something from VAG for several reasons... LOL
and for the record its my truck so i will drive it like a dick head or however the #### i want!mods please lock this thread its always a troll who ruins it.thanks bud
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